From: Kirk Haines Date: 2006-03-27T05:15:58+09:00 Subject: Re: web site development methodology On Sunday 26 March 2006 12:18 am, colonel.ender@gmail.com wrote: What you are asking for seems to be a difficult thing to pin down with precision, as all of the things that you ask about can vary depending on details not mentioned. However.... > I'm having trouble with things like ... when to hand the web views over > for graphic work, should the graphic designer figure out the layout of > the views even though the developers will be doing the initial work on > implementing the views, how to continue back-end work while the visuals > are being done (if they can be done in parallel), etc... There should be no reason why this can't be done with a substantial amount of parallelism. Put as many of the details about the layout as possible into the stylesheet(s), keeping the HTML as simple as possible. Have the graphic designer work with the developers to lay out the basic structure of the site and of whatever specific pages need to be addressed. Once that basic layout is done, you developers should be able to work on whatever code that they need to work on for the dynamic, functional bits, while the graphic designers continue to refine the details on the look of the site. The details regarding exactly how this works may vary depending on the technology that you are using to build the site, but the general concept is the same -- by using the technologies available to keep different interests separated, they can be worked on in parallel. And before you get to that point, there is still developer work that can be done on data models and areas of business logic that are going to be necessary regardless of interface details. >> I'd also like to get ideas on how to draw up and present the site to > the client, what to present in the beginning, etc... The graphic designer should start with conceptual mock-ups of a page or two of the site in order to work out the details with the client on how the site is to look. Functionally, just work off the requirements for the site. Even if a lot of the details are still fuzzy, you can lay out a general flow, a high level storyboard showing how the pieces fit together. Your requirements exist to guide the project, so make sure you use them and refer to them. If you don't yet have a good set of requirements documents, start there. It's hard to do a large project efficiently if you don't even really know what it is that you are expected to deliver. Kirk Haines