From: Ryan and Kate Huff <ryanandkate@...>
Date: 2006-03-27T04:21:46+09:00
Subject: Re: Areal noob question

It sure does, working with objects is so much easier than dealing with a
butt load of functions.  That among the "less is more" approach to syntax is
what has sparked my interest in Ruby.  I am hesitant about undergoing a
"standards conversion" on my employers web server(s) that I maintain because
I fear that I'll hit a brick wall in Ruby when trying to convert some of the
applications.

It's just a matter of playing and testing ....

-----Original Message-----
From: James Britt [mailto:james_b@neurogami.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 2:03 PM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: Areal noob question


Ryan and Kate Huff wrote:
> Well PHP is a "try to be OO" language, it's not nearly true OO.  JAVA on
the
> otherhand is really close to OO.

Does Ruby's "hardcore" OO suit you?  Ruby is far more OO than either PHP
or Java.

 > ...
>
> By "politics" I mean everything legal between Billy G. & Sun.  All that
> hogwash rendered JAVA a bit clumsy for the end-user becasue of .... "Would
> you like to download this ActiveX Component".  There are a lot of users
that
> don't "get that" part.  So as a JAVA programmer you can make these really
> insane web apps but unless the user says, "yes" to the IE prompt (85%-89%
of
> surf happens in IE still) it's all pointless and results in alot of
helpdesk
> tickets.
>
> If JAVA applets and .OCX files worked seamlessly in the browser, I
wouldn't
> be in this thread to tell you the truth.
>

Interesting.  About all I can say is that we're miles apart on how we
each prefer to build Web applications.

For what it's worth, there are a number of Web development frameworks
for Ruby, some of which include very good support for DTHML/AJAX
client-side widgets; you might want to take a look at Nitro and Rails.

I don't know if you think modern JavaScript (i.e., DOM scripting +
XMLHttpRequest) can replace applets and OCX controls, but it's worth
considering.



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