From: James Britt <james_b@...>
Date: 2006-03-27T04:03:22+09:00
Subject: Re: Areal noob question

Ryan and Kate Huff wrote:
> Well PHP is a "try to be OO" language, it's not nearly true OO.  JAVA on the
> otherhand is really close to OO.

Does Ruby's "hardcore" OO suit you?  Ruby is far more OO than either PHP 
or Java.

 > ...
> 
> By "politics" I mean everything legal between Billy G. & Sun.  All that
> hogwash rendered JAVA a bit clumsy for the end-user becasue of .... "Would
> you like to download this ActiveX Component".  There are a lot of users that
> don't "get that" part.  So as a JAVA programmer you can make these really
> insane web apps but unless the user says, "yes" to the IE prompt (85%-89% of
> surf happens in IE still) it's all pointless and results in alot of helpdesk
> tickets.
> 
> If JAVA applets and .OCX files worked seamlessly in the browser, I wouldn't
> be in this thread to tell you the truth.
> 

Interesting.  About all I can say is that we're miles apart on how we 
each prefer to build Web applications.

For what it's worth, there are a number of Web development frameworks 
for Ruby, some of which include very good support for DTHML/AJAX 
client-side widgets; you might want to take a look at Nitro and Rails.

I don't know if you think modern JavaScript (i.e., DOM scripting + 
XMLHttpRequest) can replace applets and OCX controls, but it's worth 
considering.



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