From: Ryan and Kate Huff Date: 2006-03-27T02:27:05+09:00 Subject: Re: Areal noob question Thank you very much for your insight. As far as language maturity goes, Ruby is technically older than PHP if you count it's Japanese heritage. I truly love PHP and I REALLY love Java. Maintaining code in them are nightmares though. That's what sparked my interest about Ruby and it's "less is more" approach to syntax. I still have my reservations because sometimes complex syntax is the better way to go. I'll have to see it for myself when I throw down some Ruby code and try to "break it". Ruby is yet to offer the more advance features as JAVA or PHP in my opinion but it has the basics covered and now is the time to strike with Ruby in my opinion, and ride the wave to the 2nd and 3rd versions. How are the core's version upgrades handled? Just stop Apache & cut/paste the new runtime files in the Ruby folder - similar to a PHP upgrade I guess? -----Original Message----- From: dblack@wobblini.net [mailto:dblack@wobblini.net] Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 12:13 PM To: ruby-talk ML Subject: Re: Areal noob question Hi -- On Mon, 27 Mar 2006, Ryan and Kate Huff wrote: > Can Ruby run without rails? Yes: Ruby is a general-purpose programming language. Rails is a framework (a suite of programs and programming libraries) written in Ruby. Ruby was around and in regular use for about 11 years before Rails was written. > Do I have to have Ruby gems or is there other ways of using > packages/extensions? It all depends what the package's author (or some third party) prepares and releases. Gem format is very popular; you'll also find a lot of things released as plain tar.gz or .zip files, and there's also another package-manager in/for Ruby called rpa-base. David -- David A. Black (dblack@wobblini.net) Ruby Power and Light, LLC (http://www.rubypowerandlight.com) "Ruby for Rails" chapters now available from Manning Early Access Program! http://www.manning.com/books/black