From: zuzu Date: 2006-03-20T15:23:19+09:00 Subject: Re: [OT] Using emacs on Apple's PowerBook On 3/20/06, Nicolas Kassis wrote:> Dae San Hwang wrote:>> > I apologize for the off topic post, but knowing that many ruby> > programmers are emacs/PowerBook users, I don't think this is> > completely irrelevant..> >> > For all you emacs/PowerBook users, how do you live with your> > PowerBook? I've been thinking about buying a powerbook for four years> > now but didn't only because using emacs key bindings seems extremely> > awkward on Apple's laptops. On the lower left side of powerbook, there> > is a 'fn' key which confuses my figures on the correct positions of> > control/meta(option) keys. On the lower right side of powerbook, there> > is no control/meta keys due to the placement of near useless arrow keys.> >> > I actually had expected someone would build/sell a customized> > PowerBook keyboards tailored for emacs users by now.. I am confused> > since no other emacs users seem to be bothered by this. I really think> > Apple should at least provide an option of the replacement keyboard> > for emacs PowerBook users.> >> > With the introduction of MacBook Pro and near ubiquitousness of WiFi> > connection, my desire for a laptop couldn't have been higher. Can> > anybody who share this dilemma comment on this?> >> > For those of you who think I'm a total nut for expecting Apple to> > solve my person problem, emacs key bindings have been supported in all> > text widgets of Cocoa applications ever since Mac OS X came out and> > it's only logical to expect their hardware to be designed in line with> > their software features.> >> > sorry for the rant,> >> > daesan> >> >> I feel you pain. To add to this, I really can't figure out how to make> the alt key become the Meta key in the terminal based emacs. I added the> (setq mac-command-key-is-meta nil)> but nothing works neither the apple key or the alt key is the meta key.> Did I miss something? I think the issue here is the terminal emulation you're using and thepreferences for Terminal.app. I'm rather certain a preference existsto correctly pass the alt keycode (which EMACS will then recognize). As, I sure do think having to use escape (Esc) for meta, sucks. > --> Nicolas Kassis> --------------> www.nickassis.net> www.nickassis.net/blog>>>