From: Charles O Nutter <headius@...>
Date: 2006-03-04T01:33:44+09:00
Subject: Re: Ruby on the mobile?

A number of people have approached the JRuby project, asking if there
could be a way to run JRuby within a Java ME or embedded Java
environment. Sadly, with the complexity of JRuby and its dependencies
on mainstream "standard" Java, we don't have a good way to do this.
However, it again shows there's interest in embedded Ruby.

I would also be very interested in a standard microruby that could be
embedded, mainly because devising such a standard would provide a
baseline we could use for a "micro" JRuby. If there were a core subset
of Ruby functionality that could be stuffed into a micro version, it
would probably be easier for both C Ruby and JRuby to create
miniaturized implementations. People really do want embedded/micro
Ruby...when will it be easy for them to find it?

On 3/3/06, Berger, Daniel <Daniel.Berger@qwest.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I found this post interesting.  Is Ruby ignoring the mobile market?  Do
> we need a "microruby" implementation?
>
> From Berco Beute, commenting on GvR's "Marketing Python - An Idea Whose
> Time Has Come" Artima post at
> http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=150515
>
> "Trying to market python is useless, it has to sell itself. Ruby isn't
> marketed as most in this forum seem to believe. It is has one great
> vehicle: RoR. The ideas behind RoR were interesting enough to sell
> itself. Ruby just piggybacks.
>
> Fortunately for Python there is one giant opportunity right under its
> nose: mobile devices. I won't grow tired pointing out that the market of
> mobile devices will be so much bigger than the PC market. With Nokia's
> open source implementation of a Python interpreter for their series 60
> phones the first steps have been taken in the right direction. And it's
> a direction that the Ruby community completely ignores. I've been using
> Ruby before Python and once explicitely asked the Ruby community, via
> their main newsgroup, whether anybody was thinking about a Ruby
> interpreter for mobile devices. No positive reactions.
>
> So if you want Python to become more popular, grab the source of Nokia's
> implementation from here:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pys60
>
> and port it every thinkable mobile device. Compelling applications will
> follow, believe me, since the advantage of using python over e.g. java
> microedition are enormous and many developers will be eager to switch."
>
>


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Charles Oliver Nutter @ headius.blogspot.com
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Application Architect @ www.ventera.com