From: David Vallner <david@...>
Date: 2006-02-23T10:03:48+09:00
Subject: Re: Rubuntu LiveCD I need vim/emacs configs!

D�a Streda 22 Febru�r 2006 07:48 Gregory Brown nap�sal:
> On 2/21/06, David Vallner <david@vallner.net> wrote:
> > D�a Utorok 21 Febru�r 2006 16:38 Jon Baer nap�sal:
> > > Ive switched from emacs to the new RadRails IDE as it is pretty slick
> > > although Im not sure if included a Java JVM will bloat your distro any
> > > or *if* you are even allowed to include a VM (I think you are) ...
> >
> > sun-j2re from an unofficial Debian repository, 30 MB compressed, 90 MB
> > uncompressed. It doth hurt a bit, but I'd put it in for the heck of it if
> > possible. I think Eclipse itself amounts to more, and even Postgres eats
> > 20 megs in full.
> >
> > The problem is, the Sun Java is classified as non-free, so I don't think
> > you can bundle that in an "official" Debian-based distribution - don't
> > know if Ubuntu loosened their licencing restrictions on the issue.
>
> why not just use ubuntu's free-java-sdk which wraps around the GNU
> tools and acts as a replacement for sun's SDK.
>
> it's in universe on breezy

You don't need the SDK for eclipse, you need the JRE. It seems they got 
Eclipse to run using the GNU tools (this would be GIJ, I think), and compile 
it too. The problem would be if RadRails or any other plugin tried to use 
classes the GNU Classpath or whatever is used doesn't have - I'd have severe 
doubts about anything added in Java 1.5, and even worse for anything using 
5.0 language features.

My point is that it might work, but requires testing that would not be 
required with the Sun JRE - ergo, the lazy man I am, I would go with the 
latter if possible.

David Vallner