From: James Britt Date: 2006-02-20T23:59:58+09:00 Subject: Re: Don't let this happen to Ruby, pleeeeease? Dave Howell wrote: > > > I'm sure if I spent more time not trying to actually get work done, I > could get that fixed, by asking questions here. But I have a copy of > Pickaxe, so I just use that. If I have to spend time working on my car > instead of driving to work, then my car isn't very good. If I have to > spend time working on my computer instead of using it to get work done, > then my computer's not very good. And if I have to spend time sending > messages to Ruby-Talk trying to find out how to get Ruby to work instead > of programming, then Ruby's not very good. To be fair, though, most people have little trouble getting Ruby installed and running. I do not mean to belittle or discount your experiences, but I've not had an issue with any release of Ruby when packaged up as the "one-click" Windows installer (discounting preview packages), nor have I had a problem installing final releases of Ruby from source code on Linux. I used to have routine errors installing Rails from gems, but that's no longer an issue. If you have a problem with getting Ruby up and running, post to this list. If asking for help here is not an attractive solution, then indeed you are on your own. > ... > I also agree with you, Glenn, in that I don't think these problems are > fundamental problems with Ruby itself, or its tools, or its community. > The problem is with people who don't recognize or admit that these ARE > problems, and would try to deny or excuse them. These issues can be, and > are being, resolved, but only as long as they're recognized as issues > that NEED to be resolved. It isn't that people are busy denying that some people still have problems, it's that people are just *busy*, period. Drivers wanted. -- James Britt "You harmonize; then you customize." - Wilson Pickett