From: gregarican <greg.kujawa@...>
Date: 2006-02-16T23:08:27+09:00
Subject: Re: OT: Is this worth a try?

David Valler wrote:

> Eiffel is:
>
> a) Completely dead, I'd say even more so than Smalltalk.
> b) The prime example of a bondage and discipline language. Which you > > might or
> might not like, but If you do, you're probably better off with C++ for
> overall usefulness.
>
>
> David Vallner

Thanks for the info. Breezing through some source code example the
syntax and rules didn't exactly click with me like things did when I
first started learning Ruby. So far the languages I really enjoy coding
in are Ruby, Python, and Smalltalk. Things seem relatively clean,
concise, and "just make sense" to the way I think.

A language I have tried to port projects to for the heck of it but just
can't seem to get up the interest is Java. Trying to port an app to the
Palm OS I see that Java has various implementations that will allow me
to do so. Like J2ME, IBM Websphere, and a few others. But the
verbosity, syntax, rules, readability, etc. leave me sitting there
frowning. Okay I want to create a instance of their Vector class. So I
have to type out something like:

Vector parameters = new Vector();

Ewww. Whereas in Ruby I can just say:

parameters = []

I know it's just taste and preference, but I'm glad I found alternative
languages like Ruby!