From: Seth Thomas Rasmussen Date: 2006-02-09T05:03:26+09:00 Subject: Re: Start from the start - Ruby or ruby on rails Hi James, > I'll take the road less traveled and recommend you stick with your > first instinct which was not to use Rails. I know most people say > it's so easy to learn and it is, for a web development framework. > However, the key there is that there is more to learn. > > Plus, Rails sits on top of Ruby, so starting at the top means you > might be a little fuzzy down the road about what is a Railsism and > what is actually part of the language. I think it's much easier to > go in the other direction, after you have a solid foundation in the > language, though I'm probably in the minority with this line of thought. I hope not, as I feel the same way, and this seems very rational. Personally, I read Pickaxe Dos before writing a single line of Ruby, much less Rails, and I feel it was very beneficial going into Rails. I believe it has provided for less frustration with a great many details, and enabled me to think smarter about how to do and even extend Rails as I keep on learning.