From: Daniel Nugent Date: 2006-02-08T03:51:53+09:00 Subject: Re: Start from the start - Ruby or ruby on rails Yep, I copy/pasted the wrong link. On 2/7/06, Jules Jacobs wrote: > I think you meant this one: > http://www.poignantguide.net/ruby/ > > Use Rails, and not vanilla Ruby. It will save you a lot of time. > > Please do yourself a favor, and use a database, and no XML files. > Databases are where Rails shines, it will be much easier than a XML files. > > If you are willing to buy a book, I recommend "Programming Ruby - The > Pragmatic Programmer's Guide v2" > > but you can also use (the slightly outdated) v1: http:// > www.rubycentral.com/book/ > > For a book on Rails: > "Agile Web Development with Rails" > > On Wednesday, February 08, 2006, at 3:26 AM, Daniel Nugent wrote: > >I'd say your best bet would be to start with a couple of Ruby > >tutorials to get a hang of the idioms (blocks being one of the most > >important ones) that make Ruby easy to use and maybe try writing a few > >small programs in Ruby (preferablly ones that you'd actually use) and > >then jump into Rails. > > > >Even as a beginner you shouldn't have too much trouble using Rails, > >but you definitley benefit from understanding where and how its power > >and flexibility come from. > > > >Chris Pine's tutorial is supposed to be very good even for people > >who've never programmed before (I haven't read it personally): > >http://pine.fm/LearnToProgram/ > > > >I personally learned Ruby from the Pickaxe v2, which I found to be the > >best book on a programming language that I've ever read (version 1 is > >available online: http://ruby-doc.org/docs/ProgrammingRuby/ > > > >If you're up for something a bit more difficult, strange, and > >wonderful, you should give _why's poignant guide a try (it's got > >cartoon foxes!): http://ruby-doc.org/docs/ProgrammingRuby/ > > > >As for Rails, I personally couldn't get much out of most of the online > >documents on it. I got the Agile Web Development book and that > >cleared up a lot for me. In any case here's a list of Rails tutorials > >and documentation, youre mileage may vary: > >http://www.rubyonrails.org/docs > > > >On 2/7/06, eain.jones@gmail.com wrote: > >> I'm looking to start developing a simple task management application > >> with a web interface.Three views - User/Admin/Status. No database yet > >> as i think that would be overkill. I intend to store the data in xml > >> files for the moment. > >> > >> My question - i am pretty new to development. I have been working as a > >> qa engineer for some time and have good unix skills but have only ever > >> really played with java/perl with no great success. Have had enough of > >> wishing for applications or features. I'm going to write my own. > >> > >> I would appreciate any pointers the group could offer. For starters i > >> am unsure if i should develop in vanilla ruby or implement ruby on > >> rails if it is to be a web application. My initial thoughts are that > >> learning ruby will be enough for a start but that i may have to use > >> some MVC model?? > >> > >> I have hosting with dreamhost which supports ruby. > >> > >> I am currently expanding the spec and a simple UI which i can post > >> when complete if people think that would be useful. Its based loosely > >> on basecamphq but more aligned to the organisation i work for and i > >> would hope to make it very portable. > >> > >> Many thanks for your time, > >> Eain > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >-- > >-Dan Nugent > > > > > > > > -- > Posted with http://DevLists.com. Sign up and save your time! > > -- -Dan Nugent