From: Jules Jacobs Date: 2006-02-08T03:36:32+09:00 Subject: Re: Start from the start - Ruby or ruby on rails I think you meant this one: http://www.poignantguide.net/ruby/ Use Rails, and not vanilla Ruby. It will save you a lot of time. Please do yourself a favor, and use a database, and no XML files. Databases are where Rails shines, it will be much easier than a XML files. If you are willing to buy a book, I recommend "Programming Ruby - The Pragmatic Programmer's Guide v2" but you can also use (the slightly outdated) v1: http:// www.rubycentral.com/book/ For a book on Rails: "Agile Web Development with Rails" On Wednesday, February 08, 2006, at 3:26 AM, Daniel Nugent wrote: >I'd say your best bet would be to start with a couple of Ruby >tutorials to get a hang of the idioms (blocks being one of the most >important ones) that make Ruby easy to use and maybe try writing a few >small programs in Ruby (preferablly ones that you'd actually use) and >then jump into Rails. > >Even as a beginner you shouldn't have too much trouble using Rails, >but you definitley benefit from understanding where and how its power >and flexibility come from. > >Chris Pine's tutorial is supposed to be very good even for people >who've never programmed before (I haven't read it personally): >http://pine.fm/LearnToProgram/ > >I personally learned Ruby from the Pickaxe v2, which I found to be the >best book on a programming language that I've ever read (version 1 is >available online: http://ruby-doc.org/docs/ProgrammingRuby/ > >If you're up for something a bit more difficult, strange, and >wonderful, you should give _why's poignant guide a try (it's got >cartoon foxes!): http://ruby-doc.org/docs/ProgrammingRuby/ > >As for Rails, I personally couldn't get much out of most of the online >documents on it. I got the Agile Web Development book and that >cleared up a lot for me. In any case here's a list of Rails tutorials >and documentation, youre mileage may vary: >http://www.rubyonrails.org/docs > >On 2/7/06, eain.jones@gmail.com wrote: >> I'm looking to start developing a simple task management application >> with a web interface.Three views - User/Admin/Status. No database yet >> as i think that would be overkill. I intend to store the data in xml >> files for the moment. >> >> My question - i am pretty new to development. I have been working as a >> qa engineer for some time and have good unix skills but have only ever >> really played with java/perl with no great success. Have had enough of >> wishing for applications or features. I'm going to write my own. >> >> I would appreciate any pointers the group could offer. For starters i >> am unsure if i should develop in vanilla ruby or implement ruby on >> rails if it is to be a web application. My initial thoughts are that >> learning ruby will be enough for a start but that i may have to use >> some MVC model?? >> >> I have hosting with dreamhost which supports ruby. >> >> I am currently expanding the spec and a simple UI which i can post >> when complete if people think that would be useful. Its based loosely >> on basecamphq but more aligned to the organisation i work for and i >> would hope to make it very portable. >> >> Many thanks for your time, >> Eain >> >> >> > > >-- >-Dan Nugent > -- Posted with http://DevLists.com. Sign up and save your time!