From: Gregory Seidman Date: 2006-01-08T13:18:39+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby after the tutorial On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 11:25:11AM +0900, Daren wrote: } I am a PHP developer and have just begun to investigate Ruby. I have } looked through the online Pickaxe book and Why's Poignant guide, but I'm } anxious to get started programming with it. Unfortunately, I'm pretty } short on ideas on what to program that would increase my understanding } and proficiency with Ruby. What would you experts out there suggest for } a Ruby newcomer who has seen all the tutorials but wants to continue } learning? Is there something specific that you always code after } learning a language? Any ideas or resources would be appreciated? The best I can do is tell you what I did to learn, just a couple of weeks ago. I bought the pickaxe book but, honestly, only got through the first chapter or so. I learned that Ruby is the bastard child of Perl and Smalltalk, which made me happy. I also got through a chunk of Why's guide, even before the pickaxe book arrived, which got me excited about some of the features (mostly iteration, blocks, and binding). I then did nothing for a couple of months. Meanwhile, I have been keeping some sets of bookmarks as RDF files. I "subscribe" to them as Firefox live bookmarks and they are available to me wherever I go. I was maintaining them by keeping them in simple list files and running an awk script I had written to produce the RDF files. I told some people about it, and about three weeks ago one of them tells me that he wrote a PHP webapp to manage such things, and would I like to take a look. Well, I took a look and it was pretty neat, so I decided to implement it with Ruby on Rails as a toy project. Mine turned out better than his, though this was largely due to JavaScript coolness rather than any inherent advantage of Ruby/RoR over PHP for such a small project. This involved the following: 1) Getting Ruby installed: apt-get install ruby ri 2) Getting RubyGems installed in /usr/local, which is nontrivial anywhere. I wound up writing a workaround script to force it to install properly in /usr/local, then had to add GEM_HOME to /etc/profile and /etc/csh.cshrc (and the rails environment file later on). 3) Getting rails installed: gem install -y rails 4) Figuring out how to use rails from docs/tutorials and playing around 5) Figuring out how to use RSS::Maker to generate RSS feeds 6) Implementing and debugging the RoR app. 7) Figuring out how to integrate with Apache2 (which involved fcgid) once I had finished development, and as a path on my only virtual host rather than as its own virtual host. } P.S. Replies like "Practice,Practice,Practice" would not answer my } question. Please be specific. I hope that was specific enough. It taught me a great deal, and I now feel pretty confident using Ruby and RoR. I've been doing the Ruby Quizzes the last two weeks, too. Last week's was tough, and I never did perfect my solution. This week, however, the problem was easier and I produced two solid solutions in about three and a half hours. I like Ruby. --Greg P.S. Lurking on the list and reading the responses/solutions to other people's problems has also been very helpful.