From: Jeff Wood Date: 2005-12-23T03:39:37+09:00 Subject: Re: Why not Python? (No, no, I am not a spy) ------=_Part_1478_14167796.1135276764624 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Actually, the one comparison that gets touched on a bit too lightly ... is the community... The python & ruby communities are VERY different. The above article glasse= s over it by saying: "The Python is harder to get into because it's larger than the ruby community" ... Well, uh, no, that's not true ... ... I won't go into details or start name-calling ... but, go into a chat room for either, or post a simple message to either mailing list ... You'll see the difference ... ( Heh, and if you want an even stronger contrast, try asking simple questions in a lisp irc channel ... I've never had soo many people say "We aren't going to help you with your homework" ... ( I'm 30+ and have been a pro dev for about 10 of that ... sorry, it's *NOT* homework ). ) Anyways, really it all comes down to community, and I believe there is NO other programming language with a community that is so nice to people and/o= r easy to get along with ( even when there is strong disagreement ). j. On 12/22/05, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Thursday 22 December 2005 11:07 am, Gene Tani wrote: > > Tolga wrote: > > > First of all and very first of all, I must state that I am not > > > an enemy or a spy :-D > > > > I don't have much to add, you can google for 750 k hits for "ruby > > vs python" and read what people have written on c2.com and > > artima.com "your interpreter/VM/lang spec/dev environment is > > strap-on OO, pass by reference, weakly typed, weakly lexically > > scoped, inconsistent API, writing C extensions sucks and it's > > slow" > > If you read between the lines in this thread, you notice that only > Python and Ruby are mentioned in positive light. Nobody stood up > for Perl, or VB, or Pascal, or C++, or Java. Ruby and Python have > obviously done something right, well beyond the convenience and > capabilities of other languages of our time. > > I've used Perl since 1997, and fell so in love with Perl that my > wife hired a private investigator, but since I've found Ruby, Perl > seems so, well, so 1997. For me, life's too short to use anything > but Ruby or Python in typical small to moderately sized programs > that aren't extremely computation heavy (simulation and the like). > > SteveT > > > Steve Litt > http://www.troubleshooters.com > slitt@troubleshooters.com > > -- "Remember. Understand. Believe. Yield! -> http://ruby-lang.org" Jeff Wood ------=_Part_1478_14167796.1135276764624--