From: Timothy Hunter Date: 2005-12-21T07:12:49+09:00 Subject: Re: Bruce Eckel and Ruby Ryan Leavengood wrote: > I think the problem he has (like many other Pythonistas, Javans, > Perlists, etc.) is that Ruby is getting a lot of exposure now thanks > to Rails, and he feels his livelihood might be threatened by what he > perceives as simply a fad. You nailed it, Ryan. This has little (if anything) to do with which-language-is-better, and everything to do with earning a living. Mr. Eckel makes a good living teaching Java and writing about Java and consulting about Java and the adoption of anything other than Java hurts his income. There are a few of us hobbyists that can afford to play dueling languages 'cause it's fun and what-the-hell, we've got time, but the guys out there traveling and lecturing and writing and teaching and consulting have to put food on the table. Bruce Eckel thinks his best chance is Java. Bruce Tate thinks there are greener pastures elsewhere. I wish 'em both the best of luck. Just a thought: a programming language that is free, easy to learn, rewards mastery, and has flocks of eager devotees who want to share their knowledge for free offers little incentive to a guy who needs to earn a living writing and lecturing and teaching and consulting.