From: "Nathaniel S. H. Brown" Date: 2005-11-29T15:39:34+09:00 Subject: Re: Mastering ruby or rails? When I started working with Rails I found myself at a lack experience when it came time to creating more advanced features. Rails provides great functionality within its sandbox, but when you want to do thing like create your own module, or extend the functionality of ActiveRecord to do something custom, you need to leverage Ruby. Writing Rails is writing Ruby, even though there may be a separate documentation system, you still need to learn Ruby to do simple things like manage the Time object, or create a File stream to write to. For me, its not a choice whether to learn Ruby or learn Rails, you have to learn both regardless :) Warmest regards, Nathan. -------------------------------------------------------------- Nathaniel S. H. Brown Toll Free 1.877.4.INIMIT Inimit Innovations Phone 604.724.6624 www.inimit.com Fax 604.444.9942 > -----Original Message----- > From: tony [mailto:L@L.com] > Sent: November 28, 2005 5:17 PM > To: ruby-talk ML > Subject: Mastering ruby or rails? > > Let's say that a person is a very good ruby programmer but so > far hasn't shown any interest for the web. And let's say that > now he wants to start programming with rails. How much of > ruby "is in" programming with "rails" and how much is > overhead? What I mean is... if one's intention is to develop > in rails, does he really need to study deeply ruby, or would > be better to get a general overview of ruby and spend all the > time learning ruby on rails? I know I am confused :-) >