From: "ako..." Date: 2005-11-29T09:57:29+09:00 Subject: Re: Programming Newbie: Ruby or Java? Hello, one thing that might be difficult to learn with no programming experience is Ruby's meta programming. in this respect Java is easier. one of the languages that they use in academia to teach programming is lisp. you might want to take a look at that too. but just to learn because doing something real in lisp is painful. Ruby is much more suitable. i think. but in general of course programming is not about language syntax and semantics... konstantin