From: Michael Fellinger Date: 2005-11-22T10:48:36+09:00 Subject: Re: [OT] Trying to change my OS from Windows to Linux/Mac --nextPart3020100.cjXmf9ktEU Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Montag 21 November 2005 18:12 schrieb Sam Kong: > Hello, Ruby people! > > This is not about Ruby itself but about OS. > The reason that I ask this question in this group is that I've been > motivated to use other OS's than Windows by this group while I learned > Ruby. > Thus the people in this group can answer my question very well. > Also, I feel very comfortable with people in this group, even if I > don't know them personally. > (I feel like they are my friends.) > This question is not meant to bring flame wars! > > I use Windows at my work and home. > Of course, I tried several linux OS's (RedHat, SUSE, Debian, Gentoo, > Ubuntu) and this year I even purchased Mini Mac. > However, I haven't succeeded to make myself used to these OS's. > well, cannot say anything about mac - my overall-use of it comes to about..= =2E=20 well - 2 hours :) i just never got around to buy one of these things. > I have some questions to linux users and Mac users. > > 1. When you use Ruby on Linux or just in general on Linux, do you use > text-mode or graphic-mode? > both... it depends on the task at hand. when i'm working on web-apps i my ubuntu-box is going to be the tool fo doi= ng=20 it - i have KDE running (with 3d and all fancy stuff - even osx feeling :) = =2D=20 and i _love_ eye-candy from time to time. The stuff i have running on it is Kontact (for RSS, mail and addressbook) -= =20 gaim (for kopete is crashing all the time) and of course three different=20 editors, fitting for my tasks at hand. When i'm doing quick editing of some= =20 stuff i use nano, wich saved me so far from learning both vi or emacs -=20 (actually i know a bit vi, but it is just enough for survival), when i'm=20 doing web-related stuff i tend to use Kate - and for heavy web-api-editing = i=20 prefer JEdit, wich has excellent features and plugins for ruby (highlightin= g,=20 code-completion, rdoc-integration, automagically adding 'end' and some othe= r=20 stuff [oh, almost forgot the code-browser that displays your classes/method= s=20 in a nice way]) My console on this computer is yakuake, it just feels good to have your=20 console behaving like a quake one (but with having tabs for switching=20 around). My equipment is a nice trackball (that has saved me from RSI) and one of th= ose=20 highend-ergonomic-keyboards that just cry out to be used for coding ^^ > 2. I've never succeeded to make my laptops work perfectly on Linux. > Sometimes, network card is not working, other times, USB is not > recognized, or Sound card is not working. I've tried on 5 different > laptops with different Linux but none was perfect. How do you overcome > this problem? Well... if you use just a text-mode, this might not be a > problem. > right next to this box is the extreme opposite - a really minimal WM on top= of=20 grml ( http://www.grml.org ) wich is a distribution for 'users of the=20 commandline and system-administrators' - i'm in love with it as well - it=20 runs on my laptop and serves me well when i'm traveling. another use for it is IRC - wich is one of the permanent things that i have= =20 open, as well as my music that i play using xmms... i rarely use the mouse = on=20 this one at all, maybe on one of the rare occassions that i open a webpage = on=20 it - but i can even control xmms without a mouse at all. WIFI, sound, usb, burning cd/dvd... everything working fine on it. > 3. For Mac users, do you feel OK with the simple mouse? Probably I'm > too accustomed to Windows mouse. Whenever I use Mac, I miss the > right-button and scroll-wheel. > > If anybody has experience of moving from Windows to Linux or Mac, > please share the success story. > [ONLY READ THAT IF YOU HAVE LOTS OF TIME - I AM TIRED AND ONLY ENJOY MY=20 KEYBOARD WHILE TYPING THE STORY OF MY LIFE ;] well, my little success-story is a quite long one - but everything started= =20 with one of the first linux-live-cds that were ever released (i just cannot= =20 remind what the name of it was) - for everyone reading gamestar since a lon= g=20 time you might know it... I tried it - installed it - used it - kicked it from my harddisk again. the problem was that while it wasn't that bad - i just didn't know what do = do=20 now - i tried to start some games that i had from windows but it didn't wor= k=20 =2D so since my main-use for a computer was playing back then i went back t= o=20 windows... but with a big deal of critizism of what M$ was doing wrong... So i was lurking around, always on the quest for a linux that i could use -= =20 some day my brother brought me a copy of suse 6.4 - and i was overwhelmed=20 what had changed in the meanwhile (might have been 2 years) - compared to t= he=20 changes of windows (well - no changes at all) since that day i'm a kde-monkey... i just never got used to the look'n'feel= of=20 gnome. while having linux was great - it still wasn't mature enough for me - crash= ing=20 stuff - bad sound-drivers and worst of all - no really addictive games :) so i used it for about a week and gave it a good-bye-wave after that. After that experience i always waited for some distro that was ultimate...= =20 later i tried suse 7.2 and finally it was what i searched for (or so i=20 thought) - after about a month of using it i was deeply disappointed - the= =20 reason? RPM - after searching some days for all neccesary rpms for upgradin= g=20 your kde you don't laugh about it... after a while my skills in searching=20 rpms was getting better, but it still was less than satisfying... some day i stumbled upon apt-rpm and found what i was searching for:=20 automagically searching for my dependencies. It worked well, until it broke my system. This was the day i decided to try the distro where the idea for apt-rpm was= =20 from - that was debian. downloading some cds and burning them was a matter of some hours - and when= i=20 finally installed it, it was great! apt-get install this that and this one as well until i tried to compile stuff, wich worked for some time - but after a whi= le=20 my system got messed up. so i came to the conclusion that i would try yet another distro... after so= me=20 searching i found what i was looking for: gentoo - a distro made from sourc= e=20 for source. gentoo was a great experience - it taught me a lot of stuff, how the intern= al=20 systems worked together, how to compile efficiently, what the stuff in / is= =20 all about, how to edit configs... short - everything i needed to administra= te=20 a linux-system fairly well. It was a hard school, but i enjoyed it - some day ubuntu was appearing on t= he=20 horizont, and i have had enough of hours compiling stuff. I decided to get= =20 back to apt-get, and so i came to kubuntu. Installing it was a joy, everything was going smooth (i tried it on my lapt= op=20 before) - i had what i needed, after about a year of gentoo, finally no nee= d=20 for intensive system-care anymore :) this was, until i realized how inefficient KDE for some tasks is - and i=20 decided to split it like what i have now - a design-overloaded=20 system-for-joy, and one for real crunching and relaxing. Now i'm almost at= =20 the limit of my own effectivness and can say that the game i play now, is=20 linux and ruby :) I don't look back to windows at all, it was the most unproductive time in m= y=20 life. > Thanks. > > Sam --nextPart3020100.cjXmf9ktEU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDgnjsMdQeL6eBxhIRAv16AJ4liguTvsf1kRMAU4Nu84NKIcnwmACfUUz4 zptb1MxzF7vt/Ba6oFPPguI= =cnhM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3020100.cjXmf9ktEU--