From: boscomonkey@... Date: 2005-11-19T08:47:19+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby not commercial, right? Thanks everyone for your input. I emailed the SFPL contact person an appeal and used some of your wording verbatim (I attributed them in footnotes). I did pass over the "inane" part. :-) I'm not sanguine that this appeal will go anywhere, but it's always worth a try. Here's what I sent: Hi, Thanks for touching base with me yesterday and explaining the rationale behind the rejection of the Main Library meeting room for a Ruby computer language meeting. I believe that the main contention of your rejection lies in the perception that the Ruby language is a commercial product (e.g., Microsoft Excel) and that allowing meetings that center around such product will lead to commercial profit or gain to the maker of that product. Let me point out that Ruby[1] is an Open Source language originally developed by a Japanese engineer and which has subsequently been enhanced by other engineers all around the world. Being Open Source in this case means that: * Ruby is free * As per its license[2], no one can charge royalties for its use * The intellectual property of Ruby has been placed in the public domain. Moreover, because Ruby is available for free on many different computer platforms (e.g., Macintosh, Linux, PC), no one computer company will benefit from its use over another computer company. Another way of looking at this is to treat Ruby as a language like French. Would a French language group be prohibited from using an SFPL meeting room? Speaking French could bring one profit, but one one owns the French language, and so no one stands to gain from the use of French directly[3]. We at the San Francisco Ruby Meetup group[4] are advocating the use of freely available software, have no method to gain financially from its spread, and are simply trying to encourage the use of a free tool for the gain of the community. We want to share our experiences with each other and receive the same in return[5]. Our membership and events are open to the general public. Thank you for your consideration. -- Bosco So Notes: [1] Ruby language home page - http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ [2] Ruby's license - http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/LICENSE.txt [3] Example communicated in the Ruby language discussion group (alt.lang.ruby) [4] SF Ruby Meetup group home page - http://ruby.meetup.com/6/ [5] Position communicated in alt.lang.ruby