From: Christian Leskowsky <christian.leskowsky@...>
Date: 2005-11-13T12:31:50+09:00
Subject: Re: Investigating Ruby - key limitations ?

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50%? :)

On 11/12/05, Hans Fugal <hans@fugal.net> wrote:
>
> I'll add my voice to the chorus.
>
> On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 at 13:02 -0800, mortench wrote:
> > I have been looking at the Ruby programming language recently. I like
> > Ruby and would like to use it myself but I see some several key
> > limitations that hinders use of Ruby in mainstream projects (and makes
> > it hard for me to recommend it for my customers):
> >
> > 1. Slow and very primitve VM - no jit, vm comparable to java 10
> > years ago.
>
> Fast enough for most things, plenty fast when you move the inner loops
> into a C extension. (What's that they say about 90% of the time in 10%
> of the code or something?)
>
> > 2. No native thread support - this is increasingly a problem as
> > threading and multi-core technology becomes the norm (*)
>
> Yes, and I am also glad that this is being worked on. Some have said
> this is a non-issue, and that's hogwash. The current thread
> implementation would be good enough I think if it just didn't block the
> whole process when doing a read, for example.
>
> > 3. No (first-class) unicode support (*)
>
> Others have commented on this far better than I could. This thread is
> the first time I've heard the details of the plan for 2.0 and it sounds
> perfect. (an encoding 'tag')
>
> > 4. Poor development enviroments compared to .NET/Java - however this
> > is slowly getting better - f.x. RDT is quite useful.
>
> Sorry, but I don't buy the IDE arguments. Some people prefer them, and
> that's fine. But a _lot_ of _really_good_ code has been written in vi
> and emacs, by really smart and pragmatic developers. In my own
> experience, I can code circles in vim around the VisualStudio users.
>
> So 2 out of 4, and those 2 are already being worked on. Not a bad report
> card.
>
>
>


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