From: Obie Fernandez <obiefernandez@...>
Date: 2005-11-04T01:41:37+09:00
Subject: Re: Ruby Certification

Assuming we're on the verge of a big boom in Ruby jobs, shouldn't
there be a place where employers can verify a candidates reputation?
I'm thinking a testimonial or trust-based system of some sort.

When the market for Java programmers exploded there were huge numbers
of highly (un)qualified people getting hired to do Java and causing
all sorts of grief to everyone involved. Lots of them had (or claimed
to have) certification.

obie, who believes in learning from history

On 11/3/05, Daniel Lewis <danieljohnlewis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have a hard time believing that someone experienced with only C and
> > Java, however good they are with them, can really learn Lisp or Haskell
> > by looking at some examples.
> But if you know the concepts of declarative programming, then lisp
> will be easy. If you know the concepts of functional programming then
> Haskell will be easy. My point was merely on a syntax level. Once you
> have the syntax, then people can delve into the other concepts. For
> example, I'd like to know how Ruby can work functionally, I'm not
> rushing into learning that straight away, I want to learn the
> syntax/key-words first.
>
>
> > Part of learning a new language is unlearning habits acquired while
> > using another language.
> Yessum, it took me a while to grasp Pascal after learning Visual
> Basic, C and C++. (which reminds me, i really don't like Pascal).
> I picked up Prolog quite easily though, and thats entirely different to C/C++.
>
>
> > But certification as such is of even less value than simply calculating
> > one's Ruby number, and far less entertaining.  Unless, as suggested,
> > you're in the certification business.
> Certifications are an easy way for some people to get into the
> industry. But I think experience counts for a lot more than a
> certificate.
>
>