From: Eivind Eklund Date: 2005-10-04T21:19:02+09:00 Subject: Re: Type inference On 10/4/05, Phil Tomson wrote: > In article , > Eivind Eklund wrote: > >On 10/3/05, David A. Black wrote: > >> On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, Eivind Eklund wrote: > >> > >> > On 10/3/05, Tanner Burson wrote: > >> >> On 10/3/05, Eivind Eklund wrote: > >> >>> If you don't, please stop scaring people - we want them to go > >> >>> implement type inference for Ruby :) > >> >> > >> >> 'We' do? > >> > > >> > Yes, "we" do. As in the Ruby community. > >> > >> I think "we" would be better off not predicating membership in the > >> Ruby community on interest in a particular project or direction of > >> development. It's inaccurate, in this case, and rather an > >> unattractive precedent. > > > >I meant it quite differently and much more positive: As an inclusive > >"what I believe to be a majority opinion, at least given an informed > >majority" (without excluding anybody.) > > Did you take a poll? I took a number of discussions. > Does 'informed majority' mean the opinions of those who agree with you? ;-) I'll pretend this wasn't rethorical and answer: Usually, yes. I try very very hard to not have an opinion until I've become informed. I usually end up going with the majority opinion among those that are informed. When I hold another opinion, I try to avoid speaking for the majority, and instead say things like "I believe we should". In this particular case, I thought intially that the opinion was fairly non-controversial. I've discussed the topic with a number of people - people that have actually taken the time to check the references - and as far as I remember, they've all come to the conclusion "I didn't think that was possible - cool - that would be a boon". I'm not offended by your comments - it seems like I communicate badly these days, so I should forgive everybody else for it, too - but I'll still give a small warning: Most of the dire problems I've seen in open source projects (up to and including people leaving in anger, becoming seriously depressed, and hating each other for years) have started from the use of sarcasm/irony in mailing lists and on IRC. I recommend staying away from rethorical questions, sarcasm, irony, and similar devices - they can totally explode in your face. In peace, Eivind.