From: Michael Shigorin <mike@...>
Date: 2005-10-04T20:33:58+09:00
Subject: Re: IBM vs. Microsoft vs. ... Ruby?

On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 08:26:14AM +0900, James Edward Gray II wrote:
> >there are 2 important things missing from Ruby right now: a
> >fast VM  and a good IDE. Until you have those you really
> >cannot do "Enterprise Scale" applications.

+1

> Obviously, that's very much opinion only.  I think there has
> been a  lot of evidence on this mailing list this past year
> that might bring  that opinion into question.

We've talked with a friend of mine who's in mobile services
business.  They're migrating from Perl to Java as a base
development platform exactly for "mainstream" reasons; 
and he's not just a decent manager, he's seasoned developer
himself.

Ruby wasn't an option due to exactly performance reasons.
Even if people who code well could be found or trained by those
who already do a bit (like me).  Even if he saw me developing
.rb's much cleaner and smaller than what he could do in Perl
and PHP back then when we worked together.

*Evidence* on *mailing lists* isn't really anything.
Talks don't weigh a lot and opinions are rarely paid for.

I do know about Rite plans a bit, so please don't jump up
explaining me that next version does :)  I happen to enjoy Ruby
since 1.6 but also happen to know when it begins to crawl on me.

-- 
 ---- WBR, Michael Shigorin <mike@altlinux.ru>
  ------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/