From: pat eyler Date: 2005-09-30T23:47:00+09:00 Subject: Re: IBM vs. Microsoft vs. ... Ruby? On 9/30/05, bonefry wrote: > > Emacs/VI are good but they have an almoust vertical learning curve. And an IDE doesn't have a learning curve? It doesn't take all that much to learn Emacs or VI, just spending time with them -- and the time you spend will pay dividends beyond programming as well, think writing text, xml, html, etc. > Notepad, I don't think so. And I really miss features of Eclipse like a > good file browser, jumping to the class/method declaration, a class > hierarchy viewer, code checking while typing, and all those refactoring > and code generation tools. And code auto-completion could be made to > work where it's possible. Of course, Emacs can be programmed to do all > sorts of things, but I ain't going to learn elips just for that. The > jEdit plugin also has very good functionality right now but it's far > from finished. Anyway, my point was no one can be efficient with > Notepad, and Emacs/VI basic functionality. > No one should expect to reach the higher bounds of efficiency with the basics of any editor or IDE. Those who are willing to take the time to master vi or emacs are certainly capable of being scary fast/efficient programmers. So, less hyperbole and opinion, and more ruby hacking please. -- thanks, -pate -------------------------