From: James Edward Gray II Date: 2005-09-30T23:26:47+09:00 Subject: Re: IBM vs. Microsoft vs. ... Ruby? bonefry you sure throw a lot of opinion around, but you always forget to qualify it as such. :( On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:06 AM, bonefry wrote: > Debugers are indeed overrated, but that doesn't mean they aren't > usefull. How can a unit test show you why the exit point of your > recursive function is not reached for example ? No problem here, since Ruby ships with a debugger. > Emacs/VI are good but they have an almoust vertical learning curve. > Notepad, I don't think so. And I really miss features of Eclipse > like a > good file browser, jumping to the class/method declaration, a class > hierarchy viewer, code checking while typing, and all those > refactoring > and code generation tools. You list four text editors/IDEs here, so I hardly think that's representative. I can name at least twice as many more that I know are Ruby aware. And doesn't Eclipse have a Ruby plug-in? > Unfortunatelly, without a faster VM, we won't have those libraries too > soon. Because if they are done in pure Ruby they might get too slow, You are totally using guesswork here and it's poorly researched guess work at that. > and if they are done in C, the programmers working on them have to be > proeficient with 2 languages. Before having all kinds of usefull > libraries, in my oppinion, the VM's speed should increase. Many people know C, so there's not much of a leap here. The entire Core Ruby team, just to name one example, fits your profile perfectly. > And Ruby currently chokes on O(n). Oh please! That's not even intelligent enough to provoke a comment. Now you are simply ignoring reality. James Edward Gray II