From: John Date: 2005-09-15T22:26:35+09:00 Subject: Re: you can't get in trouble with your boss for picking C# C# is The Devil, capital "T" capital "D," plain and simple. There is nothing to set C# apart from Java, except for the impossibly huge .NET framework for developing a billion different kinds of applications. While I have to use it for various projects at work, I can say that I've never enjoyed any of those except for the console applications which felt just like writing simple Java apps. Of course, any business that is a self-proclaimed "Microsoft Shop" (read: "ignorant of anything else") is going to perpetuate these situations. I'm trying hard, but most of the systems at my place of employment are Windows-based, and sneaking Ruby in is a real trick. I've gotten more done with Ruby on my own desktop, though, than anything else.