From: Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@...>
Date: 2005-09-12T11:20:49+09:00
Subject: Re: new RCRs

I think it would be best to post these comments with the RCRs
so that the relavent discussions are kept with the RCRs.

--- Austin Ziegler <halostatue@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 9/11/05, Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I just wrote up several RCR's that I've been thinking about
> for
> > a while and have been discussed on ruby-talk:
> 
> Quick Summary:
> > 318 easy way(s) to make a duck
> 
> I'm strongly opposed to this one. David Black has nicely
> summarised
> something that closely resembles my opinion on this. The
> simplest way
> is "there is no duck." The next way is "try or try not." If
> you're
> wanting an easier way to make mock objects, that's something
> that can
> be done without modifying the language -- and should be done
> that way.
> But one can't "make a duck". Duck-typing is an *approach* to
> programming, not a typing system on its own.
> 
> > 317 klass.from_s(str) or more generally klass.from_*(...)
> 
> I'm also strongly opposed to this one. I think that the
> from_* is
> poorly considered and has been deconstructed sufficiently in
> its own
> thread. The more I use Ruby, the less I am convinced that a
> generic
> conversion mechanism will work or is even a good idea. If
> this *is*
> accepted and implemented (and I hope it isn't), I would want
> to ensure
> that missing conversion routines aren't necessarily the
> reported
> location of errors when it's not appropriate.
> 
> > 316 arguments after a splat in a method call
> 
> Matz has accepted this for Ruby 2.
> 
> > 315 allow required arguments after optional arguments
> 
> I like this idea, but I'd rather see it fixed up with fully
> named
> argument support rather than the meth(req-args, opt-args,
> *splat-args,
> **kwargs) approach considered now.
> 
> > 314 concise expression debug/trace method
> 
> IMO, this is something that make life much easier for me.
> 
> -austin
> -- 
> Austin Ziegler * halostatue@gmail.com
>                * Alternate: austin@halostatue.ca
> 
> 



	
		
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