From: tony summerfelt Date: 2005-09-09T22:16:35+09:00 Subject: Re: Need help finding decent IDE/development environment for Windows graham wrote on 9/7/2005 7:56 PM: > will probably join the backwater of "almost" or niche languages like > Effiel, Forth, Modula-2, Pascal(?), Lisp, D..... (the list is endless). i'm not sure i'd put pascal in the 'backwater' category. maybe 'not used as much'. borland had the pc programming market pretty much tied up with turbo pascal 1. and the dos text mode interface that everyone else copied by version 3. pascal lives on today as delphi. you could probably reproduce a complex delphi program just using vim, but i don't know of any delphi developer that would want to. i'm a touch typist so vim works especially well for me in just about all the code i work on... but when it comes to switching between several files, debugging, testing an ide is more convenient. yeah i can do most of it in vim, but the cirque de soleil keyboard acrobatics don't make sense compared to a few mouse clicks. -- http://home.cogeco.ca/~tsummerfelt1 telnet://ventedspleen.dyndns.org