From: Bill Kelly Date: 2005-09-05T10:01:58+09:00 Subject: Re: windows shell From: "Austin Ziegler" > Frankly, cmd.exe is a lot better than most people think that it is. It can't even escape its own metacharacters. Its scripting/command language isn't remotely Turing-complete. Its commands don't output information in ways that facilitate being piped together. ... 'Could go on, but it's all downhill from here... variations on themes, ideas, and metaphors that no-one at Microsoft has apparently ever understood, despite their being established a decade or so before Microsoft even came on the scene. > Cygwin is a wholly unacceptable answer for a variety of reasons, but > mostly because it tries to impose a totally different way of thinking > on a system that doesn't map well that way. Well; Cygwin tries to provide an environment in which unmodified Unix programs can compile and run. I use the hell out of the cygwin unix progs (find, grep, diff, xargs, cp, mv, scp, rsync, etc.) ... but I agree /bin/bash ends up being kind of a misfit in Windows. I use cmd.exe myself... but I absolutely loathe it, and everything it stands for. :) Regards, Bill