From: Jacob Fugal <lukfugl@...>
Date: 2005-08-27T07:59:05+09:00
Subject: Re: vim user switch to emacs?

On 8/26/05, Derek Wyatt <derek@derekwyatt.org> wrote:
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> |>If this is the sort of thing you're looking for then I have an
> |>alternate solution.  I was a hard-core emacs user who switched to
> |>vim and the one major thing i missed was running a shell in my editor.
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> | did ':shell' not work for you?
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> Dont' get me wrong, i love vim and it's the greatest editor in the
> history of the world, but umm... ":shell" sucks.

Under what conditions? I'll agree that :shell from inside a gvim
window (note: gvim, not terminal vim) sucks. However, shell from a
terminal vim process works fine for me. It would be nice if it had
screen-type functionality, but I don't consider that one missed
feature enough to make it suck as horrendously as you imply. In all
respects, when I :shell from terminal vim, I might as well be in
another terminal except I have the added bonus that exit takes me back
to my still running vim instance.

So, I admitted the :shell under gvim sucks... but why would I need it?
If I'm in gvim, I've got plenty of other dedicated terminals just an
M-<tab> away. The only time I use shell is when I'm stuck in a
terminal vim across an SSH connection without X tunnelling.

Jacob Fugal