From: Lothar Scholz Date: 2005-08-13T01:54:51+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby Performance Hello tony, ts> Lothar Scholz wrote on 8/12/2005 11:23 AM: >> TCL <-> Ruby: >> Tcl is perfect for embedding it in apps and has a good infrastructure >> (libraries, implementation) but the language is terrible unconvenient >> for writing larger pure TCL programs. ts> what do you mean by 'larger' (ie. # of lines of code) I mean complexer algorithms, more options and influces from the outside world, more tighter connected modules. Things where the OO and abstraction facilities of "real languages" start shining. So instead large i should have written more complex. ts> i think one thing tcl has over the rest is tk. even for 'larger' programs. ts> i do all my gui prototyping in tcl/tk strictly for look and feel. then ts> i try to get the same result in ruby and invariably one gui api or ts> another problem shows up... Yes, i loved TK and did a lot of TK/TCL programming in the past (as you can find out when searching for my name in the comp.lang.tcl newsgroup). And it is such a pitty that the TK evolution came to a standstill for amost 10 years, with complete ignorance of changing requirements, as i think technically TK is still the best toolkit out there (binding events, matrix layout manager, canvas and text widgets). And this teached me a lession what can happen if too many people are just saying: Its good enough for me. Sometimes when they realize that this is not so anymore then it's too late to get back lost ground. -- Best regards, emailto: scholz at scriptolutions dot com Lothar Scholz http://www.ruby-ide.com CTO Scriptolutions Ruby, PHP, Python IDE 's