[#129195] Is compatibility important for us? — Esteban Manchado Vel痙quez <zoso@...>
Hi all,
Esteban Manchado Vel痙quez wrote:
On 31 Jan 2005, at 18:21, Francis Hwang wrote:
Francis,
I had this on "postponed", and I just realized. Sorry.
Esteban Manchado Vel痙quez wrote:
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 10:29:11AM +0900, James Britt wrote:
On Saturday 05 Feb 2005 21:49, Esteban Manchado Vel痙quez wrote:
Ian Hobson wrote:
> On the other hand, apparently large, busy sites are being built in
David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:
I can imagine being on the fence about Rails, and Ruby in general, and
[#129206] Binding precedence for first symbol arguments — "Trans" <transfire@...>
I've been thinking about the last thread on module methods and
[#129218] Partial function application (was: Re: Binding precedence for first sym...) — E S <eero.saynatkari@...>
Trans wrote:
> > def fun(x, y, z)
Douglas Livingstone wrote:
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 02:50:44 +0900, Trans <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Matt Maycock wrote:
[#129249] unit/test : I don't want to automatically run all tests — Raphael Bauduin <raphael.bauduin@...>
Hi,
[#129260] Small and simple database? — Scott Rubin <slr2777@...>
Ok, I want to make a program that requires a database. But it only requires a
[#129280] Finding the location of libraries — Claus Spitzer <docboobenstein@...>
Greetings fellow rubyists!
[#129289] Newbie: How to delete a Rails app (Windows) — peter.cutting@...
Hi
peter.cutting@tetrapak.com wrote:
> but how do I delete? (If I just delete then I get a permissions
Douglas Livingstone, 2/2/2005 06:04:
yes the switching off may have helped (will try logging off next time
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:25:49 +0900, peter.cutting@tetrapak.com
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, Barry Sperling wrote:
Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote:
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, Barry Sperling wrote:
Hi Hugh,
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, Barry Sperling wrote:
Thank you!
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, Barry Sperling wrote:
[#129293] Re: [QUIZ] To Excel (#17) — "Graham Foster" <graham@...>
> Years ago, on a job developing custom reporting software, this was
Graham Foster wrote:
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 03:13:00 +0900, Zach Dennis <zdennis@mktec.com> wrote:
[#129316] Wee 0.7.0 + Tutorial Videos — Michael Neumann <mneumann@...>
Hi,
Michael, I may be doing something wrong, but none of the MPEGs worked
I could not get the videos to work either. On OS, Linux or Win. All it
Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote:
itsme213@hotmail.com wrote:
[#129328] Now that January is over... — Tom Copeland <tom@...>
...take a look at the stats for the Ruby Windows Installer:
[#129345] ANN: ParseTree 1.3.3 and ruby2c 1.0.0 beta 1 — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>
Actual announcements are on http://blog.zenspider.com/
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:40:39 +0900, Alexander Kellett wrote:
This is very cool. Would it be possible to use PraseTree for a
[#129348] Ruby/DL and functions that modify a pointer — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...>
I just started using Ruby/DL and am amazed at what it can do. I've
Ben Giddings wrote:
[#129351] yarv and dbi — jm <jeffm@...>
Anyone out there tried dbi with yarv
jm <jeffm@ghostgun.com> wrote :
SASADA Koichi wrote:
jm <jeffm@ghostgun.com> wrote:
Processing flow data from a router. The script caches user information
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 11:18:18 +0900, jm <jeffm@ghostgun.com> wrote:
[#129423] aeditor-2.3 (darkmatter release) — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>
AEditor is written in 1523 lines of ruby code. It depends on ncursesw and ruby.
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 07:43:23 +0900, you wrote:
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 04:18:47 +0900, tony summerfelt
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 05:17:33 +0900, you wrote:
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:22:29 +0900, tony summerfelt
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 14:23:39 +0900, Bill Guindon <agorilla@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 18:09:42 +0900, you wrote:
[#129442] Re: symbols vs strings vs ? — E S <eero.saynatkari@...>
> L臧ett臻篋 James Edward Gray II <james@grayproductions.net>
[#129443] ANN: net-mdns, multicast DNS and service discovery (aka "Rendezvous") — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>
Hi,
Rendezvous is a ( good ) Tibco messaging product, don't get their
On Feb 3, 2005, at 17:33, Lyndon Samson wrote:
[#129447] What's the Ruby/OO name for this paradigm? — E S <eero.saynatkari@...>
In my current project, one of the main paradigms is code such as in
[#129451] - E01: The Java Failure - May Ruby Helps? — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>
"
Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
> From the communities behaviour, I extract the following answer:
Douglas Livingstone wrote:
From the link - "fictive technology collection". Ive worked on some of
Some of it is possible. I have created persistent Ruby objects, for
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:49:18 +0900, Luke Graham <spoooq@gmail.com> wrote:
Austin Ziegler wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 04:09:54 +0900, Ilias Lazaridis
Austin Ziegler wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, Ilias Lazaridis defenestrated me:
Thomas E Enebo wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, Ilias Lazaridis defenestrated me:
Thomas E Enebo wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:14:52 +0900, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:
Wes Moxam wrote:
* Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> [0250 19:50]:
Dick Davies wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 05:24:52 +0900, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:
Austin Ziegler wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 02:24:52 +0900, Ilias Lazaridis
Austin Ziegler wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:34:53 +0900, Ilias Lazaridis
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 02:04:51 +0900, Markus Pilzecker
In message <slrnd19fsv.1ep.curty@einstein.electron.net>, Curt
In message <4214e42d$0$29275$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, Stephan K舂per
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 04:57:08 +0900,
[#129452] RedCloth 3.0.2 -- Please, oh please, let this be the one — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>
Okay, okay. The tumblers are clicking, the clouds are parting.
why the lucky stiff wrote:
Bil Kleb wrote:
why the lucky stiff wrote:
Can't wait for this. I have been meaning to hack this myself for
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 12:58:17 +0900, Tobias Luetke
why the lucky stiff wrote:
[#129467] chop problems — BearItAll <spam@...>
Hello, I'm new here, also fairly new to ruby, but I already have some
[#129477] Working with strings... — Tom Rathbone <tom.rathbone@...>
Hi,
Or:
[#129498] problem installing gems on ubuntu amd64 — Christoph Sturm <christoph.sturm@...>
hey ruby people!
[#129524] LXL (Like Excel) 0.1.0 - A mini-language that mimics Microsoft Excel formulas. — "Kevin Howe" <kh@...>
Hi all,
[#129543] method_missing question — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>
Can someone complete the psuedo-code in SomeObject#method_missing for
[#129554] lack of reaction to latest ruby implementations — Alexander Kellett <ruby-lists@...>
working on alternatives for the ruby runtime has
Alexander Kellett wrote:
Alexander Kellett <ruby-lists@lypanov.net> wrote:
In article <cfb08da3f0e258c23dee7810291fbcd9@lypanov.net>,
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 03:35:13 +0900, Ryan Davis wrote:
[#129558] "Programming Ruby 2nd ed." at Lehmanns Buchhandlung (Germany) — "Josef 'Jupp' Schugt" <jupp@...>
Hi!
[#129601] Webrick problems under Windows (and IE6 ?) — "George Moschovitis" <george.moschovitis@...>
Hello everyone,
[#129610] Searching an article about testing C or C++ code with Ruby — Stephan K舂per <Stephan.Kaemper@...>
Hi all,
[#129616] rss/maker? — Bil Kleb <Bil.Kleb@...>
A recent Damage Control announcement thanked Chad
[#129623] Solving Tactics (#18) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>
The three rules of Ruby Quiz:
I made one guess - count of possible wins of the first and
[#129645] cross platform method to obtain disk usage — Tim Ferrell <Tim.Ferrell@...>
I am working on something where one of the requirements is to manage
[#129655] A public thank you... — Tom Copeland <tom@...>
...to Dennis Oelkers, who recently provided another mirror for some of
[#129658] RubyGems: "No such file to load -- rubygems/builder" — "Erik Veenstra" <google@...>
I added some debug information to the require method as defined
[#129667] Need to create zip files — "DaZoner" <bugmenot@...>
[#129670] 15 Invites Available — "LShatto" <infinet.businesssolutions@...>
Just email me your name and email address and i will glady provide an
[#129686] iteration the ruby way — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...>
Hi,
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 07:05:51 +0900, Navindra Umanee
[#129714] Gtk/Gnome-Applications with Ruby or Mono — Michael Gebhart <mail@...>
Hi,
[#129726] Ruby for closed source projects — Michael Gebhart <mail@...>
Hi,
Hi,
[#129763] ncurses howto examples available — Bauduin Raphael <rb@...>
Hi,
Bauduin Raphael wrote:
[#129764] mrplot-0.0.1 — Malte Harder <malte@...>
Hi everyone,
[#129772] Ruby, Windows, and PNG creation — Aaron Dalton <aaron@...>
I am running Ruby in Windows (not via Cygwin.) How can I generate PNG
[#129778] Korundum: error when overriding a KDE::RootPixmap method — Martin Traverso <martin@...>
Hi,
I want to build an internet email server into my Ruby BBS project. Does
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 03:18:30 +0900, Mark Firestone
Ok. Here's the plan.
Thanks guys!
[#129794] SQLite3/Ruby 1.0.0 — Jamis Buck <jamis_buck@...>
Here it is, at last. Bright, shiny. I think I'm going to cry.
Jamis Buck wrote:
Bil Kleb said:
[#129827] Module intercepts containing class's initialize method? — Lloyd Zusman <ljz@...>
I'm wondering if something like this is possible:
[#129831] Benchmark Mono - Ruby — Michael Gebhart <mail@...>
Hi,
On 12:05 Sun 06 Feb , Michael Gebhart wrote:
Consider this 'tuning':
Kent Sibilev wrote:
Alexander Staubo, 6/2/2005 03:14:
Is that with optimizations on (for C)?
[#129832] Feedback and developers for Win32 Utils — "Daniel Berger" <djberg96@...>
Hi all,
[#129842] The Making of the SQLite3/Ruby Manual — Bil Kleb <Bil.Kleb@...>
Jamis,
[#129844] Re: Benchmark Mono - Ruby — E S <eero.saynatkari@...>
> L臧ett臻篋 Kent Sibilev <ksibilev@bellsouth.net>
[#129862] Re: Benchmark Mono - Ruby — E S <eero.saynatkari@...>
> L臧ett臻 moma <moma@example.net>
E S <eero.saynatkari@kolumbus.fi> writes:
[#129878] Ruby Interactive Shell — "Jenjhiz" <jenjhiz@...>
Hello,
In article <420687D1.6030908@ibest.com.br>, Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote:
[#129924] Readline doesn't work no matter what I do — Hee-Seng Kye <katsura@...>
I've spent hours reading the related threads at the ruby-talk archive and
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 08:07:47 +0900, Hee-Seng Kye <katsura@msbx.net> wrote:
> Have you tried starting irb as "irb --readline" ?
* Hee-Seng Kye <katsura@msbx.net> [0236 09:36]:
[#129932] Ruby and maildir — mithrandir2003cz@...
Hi, Does anybody know about ruby library for working with maildirs?
[#129947] Re: [ANN] SQLite3/Ruby 1.0.0 — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
Jamis Buck [mailto:jamis_buck@byu.edu] wrote:
[#129954] a Ruby pdf writer that supports images — "arthur.olano@..." <arthur.olano@...>
Hello list,
[#129959] delayed string interpolation — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...>
Hi,
[#129982] math changes from 1.8.1 to 1.8.2? — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)
[#129993] GTK or FOX? — Lethalman <lethalman@...>
What's better? What are the main differences?
[#130000] — "Caleb Tennis" <caleb@...>
I've got a simple class that writes to a device on a serial port and then
[#130001] Performance of CGI::Cookie — benny <listen@...>
dear list
[#130002] inserting image to a pdf — "arthur.olano@..." <arthur.olano@...>
Hello list,
[#130004] How come this doesn't work as expected? — Chris Gehlker <canyonrat@...>
I'm just curious. I already found a work-around.
String#to_i doesn't mutate the string.
[#130019] Serialport problems in multi-threaded application — "Caleb Tennis" <caleb@...>
(I posted this a little earlier, but apparently it got sent with no
In article <33120.192.168.2.102.1107793208.squirrel@192.168.2.102>,
[#130041] FXRuby - handling Alt+F4 — Chris Morris <the.chrismo@...>
I'm trying to properly write a way to capture an Alt+F4 keystroke, and
[#130044] web testing with Ruby — Jason Sweat <jason.sweat@...>
Does anyone have suggestions for projects/libraries to web test code
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 03:41:21 +0900, Jason Sweat <jason.sweat@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 04:20:35 +0900, James G. Britt
[#130065] threading question, are ops on builtins atomic? — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>
Sam Roberts wrote:
[#130068] Grid computing with Ruby? — Alexander Staubo <alex@...>
I have an interest in distributed computing and so-called grid
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 09:18:55 +0900
[#130090] Squeak like environment for Ruby — Logan Capaldo <logancapaldo@...>
Lately I've been playing around with Squeak (http://www.squeak.org/),
Logan Capaldo, 8/2/2005 00:45:
On Feb 8, 2005, at 4:59 AM, Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote:
Alexander Kellett, 8/2/2005 06:03:
Alexander Kellett ha scritto:
On Feb 8, 2005, at 10:50 AM, gabriele renzi wrote:
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:06:38 +0900, Alexander Kellett
On Feb 8, 2005, at 12:28 PM, Robert Feldt wrote:
> > On the squeak issue: Depends on what you mean with squeak, there are
On Feb 8, 2005, at 1:02 PM, Robert Feldt wrote:
[#130102] Syck 0.50 -- The new YAML is here for testing — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>
Finally, I can go back to drawing ponies out on the bridge by the old
why the lucky stiff wrote:
[#130103] Problem Installing Rails from Gem 0.8.4 — "AnthonyBaker" <anthony.baker@...>
Hey Folks,
On 08 Feb 2005, at 00:15, AnthonyBaker wrote:
Eric Hodel wrote:
[#130180] Ruby users in India? — Premshree Pillai <premshree.pillai@...>
Hi,
We have a few budding rubyists at ThoughtWorks, Bangalore. We've been
Premshree Pillai <premshree.pillai@gmail.com> wrote:
[#130208] RubyGems Load Error Problem -- Any Ideas? — Anthony Baker (ThinkBigIdeas) <anthony@...>
Hey Folks,
[#130210] wee 0.7 questions — "itsme213" <itsme213@...>
I'm having trouble with many of the 'requires' or '/app/' not found, or some
[#130214] Creating objects from a template — "David McCabe" <davemccabe@...>
Hi folks.
[#130219] Re: A couple of Ruby API questions — E S <eero.saynatkari@...>
> L臧ett臻篋 Jon McClintock <jammer@weak.org>
On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 04:00:57PM +0900, E S wrote:
[#130222] Memory leak??? (top reporting high memory usage under Solaris) — Mark Probert <probertm@...>
Hello
[#130226] ruby-mode.el — Asfand Yar Qazi <ay1204@...2s.com>
Hi,
[#130253] mkmf and enum values — "Daniel Berger" <djberg96@...>
Hi all,
[#130272] Catching exceptions — Mark Probert <probertm@...>
[#130280] How to mimic Perl's `s///' in Ruby? — Jos Backus <jos@...>
Given Perl's
Jos Backus wrote:
Glenn Parker wrote:
[#130284] redefine Kernel method — "koboi" <daniel.flueck@...>
I would like to redefine the method Kernel#rand inside a test method, and
[#130305] Phone number to words — Jordi Bunster <jordi@...>
Does anyone have one of those algorithms that convert a phone number to
Sounds like it would make a good ruby quiz, and Friday's coming.
> > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:14:14 +0900, Jordi Bunster <jordi@bunster.org> wrote:
[#130306] What a language! — benny <listen@...>
just another ruby gotcha:
* benny (Feb 10, 2005 01:30):
[#130327] Building a Better Functor — "John W. Long" <ng@...>
Hi,
Hi--
[#130347] nontinuations and throw / catch — "treefrog" <stephen.hill@...>
Hi folks,
Hi Steve,
Excerpts from Pit Capitain's mail of 10 Feb 2005 (EST):
[#130355] RubyGems dependencies. — "George Moschovitis" <george.moschovitis@...>
Hello everyone,
[#130396] Numeric Integration Library (calculus, analysis) — "beng" <b@...>
-=-
[#130399] A Ruby-relevant quote from Alan Kay — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>
ACM Queue just published an interview with Alan Kay (the creator of
> Steve Wart about "why Smalltalk never caught on":
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 04:45:44 +0900, Douglas Livingstone
* On Feb 11 20:42, Adriano Ferreira (ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org) wrote:
> Tom
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:38:00 +0900, Douglas Livingstone
[#130405] Cross Platform GUI Toolkits — Tabor Kelly <tkelly-ruby-talk@...>
Hello,
[#130409] Really confused about exceptions now — Mark Probert <probertm@...>
[#130437] Re: Really confused about exceptions now — E S <eero.saynatkari@...>
> L臧ett臻篋 Mark Probert <probertm@acm.org>
[#130439] "stack level too deep"... because Threads keep their "starting" stack — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>
It appears threads keep their callers stack. Reasonable. But they do
[#130442] network program — Jeff Davis <jdavis-list@...>
I am writing an application and my design is for a non blocking tcp
[#130450] Efficient method lookup from integer — James <az@...>
Hi,
[#130456] HELP! irb doesn't work in Windows XP :( — "Paulo Pinto" <pjmlp@...>
Hi everyone,
[#130493] new to this language — "Ghelani, Vidhi" <vidhi.ghelani@...>
Hi,
[#130513] Currency formatting with regexp — Jim Van Fleet <jim@...>
Hi, all, this is my first post to Ruby-talk, so please be kind-- if
[#130515] Re: new to this language — "Ghelani, Vidhi" <vidhi.ghelani@...>
Hey,
[#130524] Correction to one of my input lines — "Harry Truax" <htruax@...>
Hi,
[#130534] a problem outputting text — "Ghelani, Vidhi" <vidhi.ghelani@...>
Hey,=20
[#130570] Re: Ruby users in India? — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
Premshree Pillai [mailto:premshree.pillai@gmail.com]
[#130573] utilizing ++ and -- for comments — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
Since ++ and -- wont see the light of day in ruby, can we use it for comment
I also think that the =begin, =end notation is not comfortable to use.
> for example /* */
Douglas Livingstone <rampant@gmail.com> writes:
> Why do you guys always propose comment syntaxes of icky languages? }:-)
> Why do you guys always propose comment syntaxes of icky languages?
Hi --
[#130574] ruwiki question — "itsme213" <itsme213@...>
I am considering extending ruwiki (if needed) to add some metadata to links
[#130635] Rails: has_and_belongs_to_many — Pedro Santos <pedro.santos@...>
Hi,
[#130641] RubyTorrent 0.3 (beta) — William Morgan <wmorgan-ruby-talk@...>
I'm happy to announce RubyTorrent 0.3, which I've decided is good enough
William Morgan wrote:
[#130651] evaluation order — "Zehao" <zehao.chen@...>
One interesting thing is when running the following codes
[#130656] Structuring Ruby extension code — craig duncan <craig-duncan@...>
I'm relatively new to Ruby (in terms of seriously programming in it) and right now i
On 2005-02-13 02:37:33 -0500, craig duncan <craig-duncan@earthlink.net> said:
[#130658] Ruby Weekly News 7th - 13th February 2005 — timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland)
http://www.rubygarden.org/ruby?RubyNews/2005-02-07
[#130674] mandatory braces — Johannes Ahl-mann <softpro@...>
hi,
[#130684] "Joining" strings which may be nil (or) Handling Option hashes — Gavri Fernandez <gavri.fernandez@...>
Hi everyone,
[#130696] What is this syntax? — David Corbin <dcorbin@...>
def foo(*)
[#130707] Printing why's (poignant) guide to ruby — Richard Dale <Richard_Dale@...>
I'd like to try ruby on non-programmers teaching them using why's amazing
Richard Dale <Richard_Dale@tipitina.demon.co.uk> wrote:
i'm really puzzled by this.
Alexander Kellett <ruby-lists@lypanov.net> wrote:
Navindra Umanee, 13/2/2005 20:19:
reading this again. still shocked...
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:19:20 +0900, Navindra Umanee
Hi,
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 02:13:50 +0900, Mark Hubbart <discordantus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 07:08:53AM +0900, Navindra Umanee wrote:
The Ruby user would think "Who puts?" :-)
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 08:19:57AM +0900, William James wrote:
James Britt wrote:
*putting on flame retardant pants*
Marcus Sharp <brothermarcus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:39:08 +0900, Marcus Sharp
[#130715] Ruby on Windows: debugger questions and comments — umptious@... (JC)
'm evaluating scripting languages for a client. Ruby as a language
JC wrote:
[#130725] Rails FastCGI deployment problem — Robert Feldt <robert.feldt@...>
Some of our students have developed a Rails app on Windows (w rails
Oops, the path in that log file should be /home/railsapp/railsapp/...
Please have a look in /var/log/apache2/error_log. Especially after the
[#130742] (OT) Programmer's editors for the Mac — Timothy Hunter <cyclists@...>
Just got a new Powerbook, so I'm looking for suggestions for a good
* On Feb 14 9:02, Timothy Hunter (ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org) wrote:
Just use TextMate...it costs money but it rocks! Highly extensible
On pon, 2005-02-14 at 09:02 +0900, Timothy Hunter wrote:
Another option would be Slickedit http://www.slickedit.com ...
[#130757] ruby-ast-c++ 0.0.1 — Alexander Kellett <ruby-lists@...>
over the last few hours i finally got around to writing
[#130778] can anyone verify this code as correct? — Luke Graham <spoooq@...>
class Object
Hi,
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 00:01:44 +0900, William Morgan
Forgot this snippet that may be on the way to fixing the NilClass problem...
[#130790] Threading in Windows — David Corbin <dcorbin@...>
I have an applciation that spawns multiple threads. Each thread will do a few
[#130792] rubygems support issue — jason_watkins@...
Hi,
[#130793] — "Jochen Immendoerfer" <jo@...0me.homelinux.net>
Hi,
[#130831] rubytorrent q — "inunaator" <inm@...>
Can this be edited this way that the client reports to the tracker or
[#130835] Re: Printing why's (poignant) guide to ruby — "Kloubakov, Yura" <YKloubakov@...>
[#130881] More on memory and possible leaks ... (longish) — Mark Probert <probertm@...>
[#130919] IO.popen — Eko Budi Setiyo <contact_us@...>
Can any body tell me how to convert "Windows command" IO.popen("start
[#130934] cache table implementation — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...>
Hi,
[#130959] Nitro + Og 0.10.0 — "George Moschovitis" <george.moschovitis@...>
Hello everyone,
[#130975] Is this old style Ruby? — centrepins@...
In Why's guide, I see the line:
* Jeremy Tregunna (Feb 15, 2005 15:10):
Page 349 of the (printed) pickaxe2 mentions '::' and '.', but doesn't
Hi --
So you would say use :: only for constant access, and use '.' for
* centrepins@gmail.com (Feb 15, 2005 16:16):
[#130977] Ruby Source code checker — Michael Gebhart <mail@...>
Hi,
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:04:57 +0900, Michael Gebhart <mail@miketech.net> wrote:
[#130998] SQLite3/Ruby 1.1.0 — Jamis Buck <jamis_buck@...>
The "Og" release!
[#131010] Corporate RubyGems Repository — "Roustem Karimov" <roustem.karimov@...>
I am working on a few in-house ruby projects. We have different
* Roustem Karimov <roustem.karimov@gmail.com> [2005-02-16 01:54:52 +0900]:
[#131013] Wikis (spawned from Re: Printing why's (poignant) guide to ruby IIRC) — "Ruth A. Kramer" <rhkramer@...>
I wamted to reply to the comments on wiki vs. mail lists but I misplaced
[#131030] Ruby as a domain specific language? — cnmaclean@...
Hi
* cnmaclean@hotmail.com <cnmaclean@hotmail.com> [2005-02-16 03:14:53 +0900]:
[#131043] ruby2c 1.0.0 beta 2 released — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>
We've released ruby2c 1.0.0 beta 2!
[#131046] FaceToFace 0.1.0 — benny <listen@...>
Benny is happy to announce his first published piece of software:
[#131062] Re: [EVALUATION] - E01: The Java Failure - May Ruby Helps? — E S <eero.saynatkari@...>
> L臧ett臻篋 Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com>
[#131080] Reading mp3 files — Scott Rubin <slr2777@...>
I've been writing some simple music collection management scripts in ruby
[#131101] Curious regexp behavior — lewisd@...00f.net (Derek Lewis)
On a whim, I just decided to try an experiment with regexps, to see how
[#131103] Wee web-framework. It's great! — Joao Pedrosa <joaopedrosa@...>
Hi,
Joao,
You know, I think Wee could become really hot if someone could mix it
Vincent Foley wrote:
Michael Neumann wrote:
Zach Dennis wrote:
>> Is it pronounced, "Ohhhgggg" or "Oh - G"?
George Moschovitis wrote:
>> Hmm, I pronnounce it 'Ohh G' but Ogg sounds nice too :)
[#131104] any SF Bay Area Rubyists around? — "David A. Black" <dblack@...>
Hi --
[#131127] adding a dynamic method handler? (long post) — Mark Hubbart <discordantus@...>
Hi,
[#131132] Ruby + end user applications — "martinus" <martin.ankerl@...>
Ruby definitely needs more cool, simple to use, end user applications.
Ideas? I never have a shortage of ideas for cool/useful apps. Just tell
[#131138] DesignByContract (was RE: utilizing ++ and -- for comments) — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
at [mailto:"neo.matrix.fr(at)"@wanadoo.fr] wrote:
[#131154] Nitro apache2 question — Ochronus <ochronus@...>
Hi all,
[#131159] Rails question — Ochronus <ochronus@...>
Hi,
> This brought up a former problem of mine: I was not able to deploy a
[#131168] FileSystem 0.1.0: Beta for me, Alpha for you — Francis Hwang <sera@...>
Greetings!
Francis Hwang wrote:
On Feb 16, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Daniel Berger wrote:
Francis Hwang ha scritto:
Francis Hwang wrote:
[#131248] ri needs to tell me what to require — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...>
% ri File.copy
[#131252] Where is Ruby headed etc. — centrepins@... (Glenn)
A few musings/questions/dribble from an excited newbie. And my first
Glenn wrote:
Hi,
On Feb 16, 2005, at 23:47, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
[#131264] Re: A little bit confused about array+array addition (bug or expected behavior?) — "Assaph Mehr" <assaph@...>
[#131275] installed ruby on linux without su access — Eko Budi Setiyo <contact_us@...>
Hi all,
Eko Budi Setiyo wrote:
Hi ..
Mark Probert wrote:
[#131284] Ruby Visual Identity Team — "John W. Long" <ng@...>
Recently I've seen a couple of people mention how much they would like
Francis Hwang wrote:
John W. Long wrote:
James Britt ha scritto:
Quoteing rff_rff@remove-yahoo.it, on Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 05:34:49PM +0900:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:37:14 +0900, Sam Roberts <sroberts@uniserve.com> wrote:
Wrote "James G. Britt " <ruby.talk.list@gmail.com>, on Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 11:49:03PM +0900:
So Matz asked Chad Fowler, David A. Black and James Britt to lead the
[#131333] emacs syntax highlighting problem — Tim Ferrell <Tim.Ferrell@...0nspark.com>
Let me first say I am new to emacs ... so this may be something embarrassingly simple :-)
Some further investigation uncovered the culprit: ruby-electric.el (
[#131351] net::ssh popen3 issue? — ritchie@...
hi
[#131370] 2/24 = 0?; or, how do I add hours to a DateTime? — rpardee@...
Hey All,
[#131390] parse error in complex heredocs — Alexander Kellett <ruby-lists@...>
check <<-ENDTEST, [:blah
[#131404] - E02 - Nitro, a Ruby Based WebFramework — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>
>
Wow, I actually predicted this post in another thread. Nitro vs ruby is clearly
not too sure to be honest.
i take this back i read some of the various
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:30:49 +0900, Alexander Kellett
Bill Guindon <agorilla@gmail.com> writes:
Christian Neukirchen wrote:
Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> writes:
Christian Neukirchen wrote:
Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> writes:
Christian Neukirchen wrote:
Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> writes:
Christian Neukirchen wrote:
Alexander Kellett wrote:
Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
Ilias Lazaridis wrote [the answers given on nitro-devel]:
Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:
[#131407] Evaluating a string of Ruby code within an anonymous module: done correctly? — Asfand Yar Qazi <ay1204@...2s.com>
Hi,
Asfand Yar Qazi wrote:
Joel VanderWerf wrote:
Joel VanderWerf wrote:
[#131415] Regular expressions in Gmail filters? — Lyle Johnson <lyle.johnson@...>
Does anyone know how I can set up a Gmail filter that looks
[#131422] ICFP Contest Dates Are Set — James Edward Gray II <james@...>
It's pretty early yet, but a lot of coders need time to plan and gather
James Edward Gray II <james@grayproductions.net> wrote:
Martin DeMello ha scritto:
Yeah! Nobody said you had to win.
On Feb 18, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Shalev NessAiver wrote:
> People do enter the ICFP Contest alone, just FYI. It's a lot of work
Heh heh. I haven't taken a look at the specifics of this yet, is there
[#131426] Net:SSH bug (+ fix) — "Peter C. Verhage" <usenet1@...>
Hi,
[#131443] test/unit non-exit on failure — Belorion <belorion@...>
I sarted using test/unit today, and have a quick question that wasn't
* Belorion <belorion@gmail.com> [0241 21:41]:
[#131459] Regular expression question? — "Lei Wu" <marathoner@...>
Hi,
[#131469] Virtual Ruby Group — Zach Dennis <zdennis@...>
Ok, I have a question for fellow rubyists, rubyiers, etc... There seem
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 08:59:18 +0900, Zach Dennis <zdennis@mktec.com> wrote:
Lyle Johnson wrote:
It looks like there are a few folks interested in the Virtual Ruby Group
One more suggestion: you could make a FreeRIDE plugin out of jabber4r, and
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:02:19 +0900, Curt Hibbs <curt@hibbs.com> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:41:36 +0900, Tanner Burson
Bill Guindon wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:59:24 +0900, Zach Dennis <zdennis@mktec.com> wrote:
Weren't we first going to implement a "Team Version of NoPaste"?
Shalev NessAiver wrote:
Well, as (from what I hear) we're not just doing a plain nopaste copy,
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:34:54 +0900, Shalev NessAiver
> > So... should we keep imposing on the hospitality of the main ruby list,
Curt Hibbs wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 04:01:10 +0900, Hal Fulton <hal9000@hypermetrics.com> wrote:
[#131477] Newbie needs help with escaping regex — "Paul Wistrand" <pwistrand@...>
Hi,
[#131499] pulling my hair out, why won't Kernel.sleep(0) sleep? — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>
Can anybody give me any hints as to what I should be looking for? What
Sam Roberts <sroberts@uniserve.com> wrote:
[#131535] Microsoft and DSLs — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)
Found in the Software Developers Magazine Agile newsletter in my inbox
[#131545] Require when Executed file is required by another file. — "Zev Blut" <rubyzbibd@...>
Hello,
It seems that although require normally makes sure a certain files only
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:09:47 +0900, Nospam
> In general, it is very hard and time consuming to determine that
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:00:37 +0900, Martin Ankerl
[#131563] 1-800-THE-QUIZ (#20) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>
The three rules of Ruby Quiz:
Hello Group,
[#131590] Ruby Bindings for POI — "Avik Sengupta" <avik.sengupta@...>
POI (http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/) is a pure java library that reads
[#131634] ruby-gnome2 question — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>
I have a GnomeCanvas Group that I'm trying to rotate (in 2D).
[#131635] Rails presentation — Jamis Buck <jamis_buck@...>
So I gave a presentation on Rails to the Utah Java Users Group last
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 03:48:24 +0900, Jamis Buck <jamis_buck@byu.edu> wrote:
pat eyler wrote:
On 04:17 Sat 19 Feb , pat eyler wrote:
[#131655] Creating Effective Demo Movies — "James G. Britt " <ruby.talk.list@...>
Jamis Buck recently posted about his giving a Rails demo/talk to a
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 05:18:13 +0900, James G. Britt
[#131666] Any update to RubyGems recently? RE: a bug I've got — centrepins@...
I haven't been able to install RubyGems since 1.8.2 was released as it
[#131685] FXIrb 0.14 - a Win32 GUI wrapper around IRB — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>
- What?
Martin DeMello wrote:
[#131698] Module nesting and module vs. instance methods — "gga" <GGarramuno@...>
Having made the commitment to ruby, I am now finding myself building
[#131716] Yet Another... wait. This is my first Wee Example. :-) — Joao Pedrosa <joaopedrosa@...>
Hi,
[#131734] Force an FX redraw — "ritchie@..." <ritchie@...>
Hi
[#131745] Re: [ANN] FXIrb 0.14 - a Win32 GUI wrapper around IRB — E S <eero.saynatkari@...>
> L臧ett臻 James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@neurogami.com>
[#131753] Array#join non string arguments — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>
A proposal:
Hi,
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:52:25 +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 17:59:55 +0100, Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi --
[#131767] Dynamically loading and executing within a new module? — Lloyd Zusman <ljz@...>
I'm not sure what would be the best way to accomplish the following in
[#131776] Kwartz-ruby 2.0.0-beta2 - a language independed template system — "kwatch" <kwa@...>
Hi,
kwatch <kwa@kuwata-lab.com> wrote:
[#131805] RDT for Eclipse - help — "itsme213" <itsme213@...>
Just installed Eclipse and then RDT.
[#131807] Ruby Weekly News 14th - 20th February 2005 — timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland)
Ruby Weekly News 14th - 20th February 2005
[#131808] destructive! operations — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...>
Hi,
Robert Klemme, 20/2/2005 12:04:
On Feb 20, 2005, at 10:23 AM, Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote:
James Edward Gray II <james@grayproductions.net> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 06:07:58 +0900, Navindra Umanee
Austin Ziegler <halostatue@gmail.com> writes:
Austin Ziegler <halostatue@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:31:42 +0900, Navindra Umanee
From: "Christian Neukirchen" <chneukirchen@gmail.com>
"Bill Kelly" <billk@cts.com> writes:
Christian Neukirchen schrieb:
Pit Capitain <pit@capitain.de> writes:
Christian Neukirchen schrieb:
Pit Capitain <pit@capitain.de> writes:
On Mon, February 21, 2005 6:07 pm, Christian Neukirchen said:
ES schrieb:
Pit Capitain, 21/2/2005 17:04:
[#131810] Getting a method or class within a file — Asfand Yar Qazi <ay1204@...2s.com>
Hi,
Asfand Yar Qazi schrieb:
Pit Capitain wrote:
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 20:54:42 +0900, Asfand Yar Qazi <ay1204@qazi.f2s.com> wrote:
[#131826] fxri 0.1.0 — "martinus" <martin.ankerl@...>
fxri is an interface to Ruby's RI documentation. It has several nice
[#131831] gem-newbie's first attempt... — Wybo Dekker <wybo@...>
Hi I tried to install fxri, but got an error; did I do something
[#131838] FreeRide 0.9.3 - The Free Ruby IDE — Laurent Julliard <laurent@...>
Version 0.9.3 of FreeRIDE has been released and is available for download!
[#131863] YAML/RedCloth Question — "mikeleonard" <mikeleonard@...>
Hello all,
[#131867] CAST -- Ruby's C parsing dog. Woof. — George Ogata <g_ogata@...>
The folowing is a program from The Ruby Way page 441
[#131902] problems with rubycocoa on macosx 10.3.8 w/ ruby 1.8.1 — jm <jeffm@...>
$ ruby -v
jm wrote:
could someone with a clue just make a .dmg? :)
Hi,
[#131925] YAML and hash — Artur Merke <merke@...>
Hi,
[#131940] ANN: 2005 International Obfuscated Ruby Code Contest (IORCC) — Todd Nathan <iorcc@...>
Dear Fellow Rubists,
Todd Nathan wrote:
you're just annoyed cus you can't write crap code!
Hi,
Hi --
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:23:08 +0900, David A. Black <dblack@wobblini.net> wrote:
Bill Guindon <agorilla@gmail.com> writes:
Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> wrote:
Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca> writes:
Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:38:56 +0900, Mathieu Bouchard <matju@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@gmail.com> wrote:
Josef 'Jupp' Schugt <jupp@gmx.de> writes:
[#131955] London (UK) Ruby meeting, February 28 — "David A. Black" <dblack@...>
Hi --
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 01:26:08 +0900, David A. Black <dblack@wobblini.net> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 01:26:08 +0900, David A. Black <dblack@wobblini.net> wrote:
[#131966] Temporary Outage of ML <-> NG Gateway — Dennis Oelkers <dennis@...>
Dear list,
The gateway is now up and running again. All queued mails have been mirrored
[#131995] Constructor overloading??? — Panagiotis Karvounis <pkarvou@...>
Hi,
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 06:04:07 +0900, Panagiotis Karvounis
[#132000] Anyone run rbbr on OS X? — jim@...
Hi
[#132003] Constructor overloading??? — Panagiotis Karvounis <pkarvou@...>
I am not trying sth special.I am testing language features that I use with Java.
[#132008] Any "Powered by Rake" button out there? — "Josef 'Jupp' Schugt" <jupp@...>
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[#132013] WEBrick: Virtual hosts and inherited directory mappings — Lloyd Zusman <ljz@...>
I posted the following query to the webrick mailing list, but that list
[#132014] CSS integration with CGI objects — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org>
I think that the CGI class is still in development, isn't it?
[#132025] any ideas on how to get readline support in OS X 10.3? — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>
On Feb 21, 2005, at 7:50 PM, Sam Roberts wrote:
Thanks, I know I can install my own copies of things that the OS already
[#132036] Proposal for nil, 0, and "" in an if statement — Dan Fitzpatrick <dan@...>
The following was derived from a portion of the destrutive! operations
> Here is a proposal for evaluating "", 0, and nil in an if statement:
David Heinemeier Hansson schrieb:
On Feb 22, 2005, at 6:41 AM, Pit Capitain wrote:
On Feb 22, 2005, at 6:47 AM, Gavin Kistner wrote:
Hi --
David A. Black wrote:
Michael Neumann, 22/2/2005 11:25:
Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 03:00:03 +0900, Michael Neumann <mneumann@ntecs.de> wrote:
Gavin Kistner wrote:
(In response to news:41EFDE9C-84DF-11D9-8B41-0011243148CC@refinery.com by
[#132042] Visual C++ Run-time error with rubyw.exe — Matt Mower <matt.mower@...>
Hi folks,
[#132127] My second Wee example, together with some more things. — Joao Pedrosa <joaopedrosa@...>
Hi,
Joao Pedrosa wrote:
Hi,
[#132156] surprising: class A; end; A === A ==> false — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>
I'm used to thinking of === being MORE useful
On 01:24 Thu 24 Feb , Sam Roberts wrote:
Quoting jim@weirichhouse.org, on Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 02:38:35AM +0900:
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 09:58 pm, Sam Roberts wrote:
[#132179] Wee Tutorials - Missing In Action — Shalev NessAiver <shalev@...>
While it's really great that Michael Neumann has taken the time to
[#132186] Lighting the candles on the cake? — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...>
Don't want to eat birthday cake too soon, but I know that someplace it's
James Britt wrote:
[#132203] kde.rb: why you should use ruby — Navindra Umanee <navindra@...>
Hi,
[#132208] Rubyonrails — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org>
Have you used ruby on rails?
[#132209] Re: [RCR proposal] "Map" mixin analogously to "Enumerable" — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...>
Olaf Klischat ha scritto:
[#132211] Re: Zip Files as deployable Components (was: Re: "module model", how to call it properly?) — Csaba Henk <csaba@..._for_avoiding_spam.org>
On 2005-02-24, Robert Klemme <bob.news@gmx.net> wrote:
[#132217] 1-800-THE-QUIZ (#20) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>
Here's an interesting quote from Brian Schroeder's solution page:
[#132218] a new delegation technique :-) — "David A. Black" <dblack@...>
Hi --
[#132237] Re: Rubyonrails — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org>
thanks all, i'll stick to rails :)
[#132245] Rails 0.10.0: Routing, Web Services, Components, Oracle — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...>
We're plowing through the road map at lightning speed with the release
[#132246] Simple HTML Renderer / Browser? — Randy Kramer <rhkramer@...>
I need a simple HTML renderer (to get started--eventually, I want to be able
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 01:31:24 +0900, Randy Kramer <rhkramer@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday 26 February 2005 10:33 am, you wrote:
next time use a distribution with a prebuilt package :)
On Saturday 26 February 2005 02:39 pm, you wrote:
concealed at the bottom of
On Sunday 27 February 2005 10:46 am, Alexander Kellett wrote:
[#132257] ruby-talk.com Expired? — James Edward Gray II <james@...>
I use http://ruby-talk.com/# style links on the Ruby Quiz site and I
Hi, I'm looking at creating md5 passwords in ruby then manually
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 04:09:42 +0900, James Edward Gray II
[#132271] How to extend $stdout#write for system calls? — Jim Freeze <jim@...>
Hi
Jim Freeze wrote:
Jim Freeze wrote:
[#132284] mailing lists — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>
Anyone here used a mailing list?
> Anyone here used a mailing list?
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:21:33 +0900, vruz <horacio.lopez@gmail.com> wrote:
[#132294] webrick help — Eko Budi Setiyo <contact_us@...>
Hi all,
[#132298] rdoc and GNU-indented files — Ian Macdonald <ian@...>
Hello,
[#132317] Is anyone (else) running Rubyx? — "ES" <ruby-ml@...>
Anyone here running the OS? Any anecdotes to share, good or bad?
[#132319] Validating XML Parser? — Iwan van der Kleyn <none@...>
Hi there,
[#132341] cgi sessions not working :S — Javier Valencia <jvalencia@...01.org>
I have a eruby page, which makes a new session just for fun. The code is:
[#132353] Phone Typing (#21) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>
The three rules of Ruby Quiz:
[#132357] IBM and PHP — pat eyler <pat.eyler@...>
from some posts on Slashdot:
[#132363] Purpose of rb_assoc_new() — Ian Macdonald <ian@...>
Hello,
[#132372] IHelp 0.3.0 — Ilmari Heikkinen <kig@...>
Announcing the release of IHelp 0.3.0.
On Friday 25 February 2005 04:31 pm, Ilmari Heikkinen wrote:
[#132373] Ajax: A New Approach to Web Applications — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>
I always have trouble remembering whether its HttpXmlRequest, or
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 06:45:34 +0900, Curt Hibbs <curt@hibbs.com> wrote:
James G. Britt wrote:
I have been doing a lot of work w/ Ajax, and the server side action piece.
Dion Almaer wrote:
Old discussion, but regarding whether Ajax is a concept that deserves a
> http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1111339822&count=1
It seems as if several of us have written this at some point. I wrote
Mathieu Bouchard ha scritto:
On 16:25 Sat 26 Feb , gabriele renzi wrote:
Jamis Buck wrote:
[#132387] what is the rubygems-update package? — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...>
Hello!
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 08:55:01 +0900, Lionel Thiry
[#132394] win32-dir 0.1.0 — "Daniel Berger" <djberg96@...>
Hi all,
[#132408] Re: win32-dir 0.1.0 — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
Daniel Berger [mailto:djberg96@hotmail.com] wrote:
[#132448] Can I remove methods from a single object, but not its class? — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>
I want to allow method calls during initialization, but not after:
[#132455] RubyGems 0.8.5 — Jim Weirich <jim@...>
= Announce: RubyGems Release 0.8.5
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 10:34:34 +0900, Jim Weirich <jim@weirichhouse.org> wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 08:34:58 +0900, Shashank Date <sdate@everestkc.net> wrote:
[#132456] Working with Tempfile class — RNicz <rnicz@...>
I've encountered following problems working with Tempfile:
[#132473] assignments and thread safety — Csaba Henk <csaba@..._for_avoiding_spam.org>
Hi there?
[#132489] for vs. each — "Fear Dubh" <feardubh@...>
Hello,
[#132500] Parsers vs. Homemade "Parsing" via REs — Randy Kramer <rhkramer@...>
I have the need to translate several megabytes of TWiki marked up text to
[#132534] missing dispatch.servlet — "Jop" <jopwork@...>
Hi,
[#132538] is_defined? — Eko Budi Setiyo <contact_us@...>
Any body now how to do some thing like this in ruby
[#132544] Orbjson, a JSON-RPC ORB for JavaScript/Ruby interaction — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...>
An initial gem release of Ruby Orbjson is available. It provides an ORB
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:01:01 +0900, James Britt
Jacob Fugal wrote:
[#132554] structuring complexly-interdependent C/Ruby libraries — Eric Peden <eric@...>
First post. Hi. :)
[#132567] RubyGarden deletions of RubyWeeklyNews — timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland)
Just about every week after I post the Ruby Weekly News, someone
[#132575] Rendering ruby openGL output to a file. — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...>
Hello Group,
[#132577] FreeRIDE project - Call for help — Laurent Julliard <Laurent.Julliard@...>
All,
Laurent Julliard wrote:
[#132578] FastCGI and Windows — sigzero@...
I have used the Windows installer for FastCGI from RubyForge. I have
[#132588] DIY "matrix" screensaver! try: ruby -rtracer -rsocket -enil — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>
It only runs for about half a minute, but its quite impressive!
[#132616] aliasing variables — Eliah Hecht <eliahhecht@...>
Is there a way to do something like
Eliah Hecht wrote:
Re: UML and ER modeling (was: Re: Microsoft and DSLs)
"Austin Ziegler" <halostatue@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:9e7db91105021806141135f8c5@mail.gmail.com...
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 22:09:47 +0900, Robert Klemme <bob.news@gmx.net>
> wrote:
> > "Austin Ziegler" <halostatue@gmail.com > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> > news:9e7db91105021804385d91a8ac@mail.gmail.com...
> >> On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:34:51 +0900, Phil Tomson
> >> <ptkwt@aracnet.com> wrote:
> >> [...]
> >>> "[...]This is a far different approach than UML's general,
> >>> wide-purpose models. For example, UML class diagrams can be used
> >>> for conceptual modeling, object-oriented analysis modeling,
> >>> object-oriented design modeling, logical data modeling and
> >>> physical data modeling.[...]"
> >> FWIW, the author of that statement is wrong. UML cannot be
> >> effectively used for either logical or physical data modeling.
> >> It's too based in object modeling. People who use UML for ER/data
> >> modeling are making a huge mistake. There's far better modeling
> >> methodologies out there than UML.
> > Just curios: what do you think are the major shortcomings of URL
> > that make it inappropriate for ER modeling?
>
> I laid out much of this in a response to Markus in the first Ilias
> thread, but I'll repeat it here.
Thank you for investing that effort. I'm neither an UML expert nor an UML
devotee. Still, I think not all your arguments against UML are valid.
> Everything. UML has a bunch of problems, ranging mostly from the
> fact that it tries to be capable of modeling everything all the
> time.
True, that's one big source of problems. See my personal UML drawback
list at the end.
> That means that to attempt to do ER/data modeling, you have to
> repurpose the class diagram. Except that tables don't have methods,
> so you have to ignore that entirely. And that UML uses C/C++/Java
> types explicitly, which aren't as rich as or don't map well to SQL
> databases by and large.
You probably used an UML tool that makes use of Java, C++ etc. types - but
that's not a feature of UML itself. It's just something that makes code
generation possible / easier for a concrete programming language and I
think that's the reason why vendors do this.
> Object oriented mechanisms are generally good at what I call "one-
> way browsing." That is to say that there's generally only one way to
> access certain pieces of information in a given object model. A
> perfect example would be the case of a cellular phone company's
> billing policies. Typically, a customer (C) will have one or more
> rate plans (P) that can also be assigned to other customers; a
> standard many-to-many relationship.
I'd say you're right with regards to OOPL: most of them do in fact lack
proper mechanisms for modeling relationships. I don't subscribe to this
statement with regard to OO modeling: UML does quite a good job at
modeling all differnt kinds of relationships - even n-ary relationships.
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> UML is based on Jacobsen, Booch and Rumbaugh; they are all object
> oriented theorists. And they're wrong when it comes to the supremacy
> of OO design over proper ER design.
Do they actually claim that?
> But UML encodes that bias and
> forces you to make choices that you should not have to make in your
> ER modeling if you're making the mistake of using UML for that
> instead of the established models for ER. (Indeed, for some types of
> database design -- typically data warehousing, ER isn't appropriate
> either -- you need what is called Dimensional Modeling, and I know
> very little about that.)
>
> Note that I'd *never* suggest that ERD should be used for object
> modeling. UML Class Diagrams are perfectly good for that. But that's
> about *all* they're good for, and they're not always good for that
> in all languages because they make assumptions about the language
> that will be used.
UML itself is quite general in fact, I assume you are rather talking about
specific tools.
> Products like ArcStyle might be able to help with
> that, but they'll still never produce a good database schema from an
> object model. Never.
Hm, I have the impression that you've worked with awful UML tools (or UML
tools that were not suited to the task you wanted them to fulfill) and now
you blame UML. IMHO we should keep that separate.
Here's my UML drawback list (TM)
- Too many versions
- UML is used for modeling *and* graphical programming. IMHO it's better
suited to modeling than to programming; the difficulties getting a proper
UML tool with working reverse engineering are a good indication for this
point.
- People often do not distinguish between these two use cases of UML and
that creates some confusion.
I still find UML (or rather a subset of it) quite useful to sketch or
design certain aspects of a system. I never use it for direct code
manipulation as I've experienced too many problems with this. Also I
think it's not productive to model a complete system down do every detail
with UML - which is what you would have to do if you wanted to get code
out of this.
Kind regards
robert