From: Marcus Sharp Date: 2005-02-15T02:39:08+09:00 Subject: Re: Printing why's (poignant) guide to ruby *putting on flame retardant pants* As a noob to Ruby who was convinced to try it after reading why's wonderful work, i will say that i find Ruby "harder" than Python. To call Python a "joke of a language" is pretty harsh by the way. It is taking me much, much longer to work my way through the PickAxe book than it did Learning Python. In just a few days of that book, I wrote fully functional (albeit very tiny) applications that did what I needed them to do. As well, at the time, the Python community was helpful to the noob. Of course, Python doesn't have why, so it loses on that aspect. :) I did go and find a used copy of Learn Ruby in 21 Days and it does seem to be a bit easier to get through so far, but the Ruby syntax is a bit more work for me whereas in Python I feel like I'm writing pseudo code that actually works. But that's just me, your average newbie (or maybe to you I'm an idiot) , and it of course in no way reflects on the writings mentioned, nor the language. And I do intend to get through the Ruby books eventually....