[ruby-talk:12826] Re: Status of (un)freeze?

> From: Yukihiro Matsumoto [mailto:[e-mail]]
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> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 06:41 AM
> To: ruby-talk ML
> Subject: [ruby-talk:12773] Re: Status of (un)freeze?
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> In message "[ruby-talk:12762] Re: Status of (un)freeze?"
>     on 01/03/17, "Christoph Rippel" <[e-mail]> writes:
> 
> |I am not sure if Ruby really needs infinite recursion protection for 
> |#egl?,#== etc. (#hash is trivial btw.) in the core. It won't be free
> |in terms of running speed but it can be done relatively cheaply. 
> |On the other hand it certainly helps if we were allowed to put 
> |some hooks for our stuff into the core.
> 
> If you are going to make recursion error, I don't think it's worthy to
> have in the core.  It's detected by stack level check anyway.  But if
> you can compare tangled structure safely, it's worth it.

I whole heartedly agree with your comment about the stack-level check ...
There are many ways of comparing tangled structures and my opinion on 
what's the right thing to-do (as the default) changes about every two
hours - so we better wait and see ... 
The identity problem silently effects many destructive methods - uniq!, 
& etc. but seeminly unrelated methods like #flatten! are also effected
- the ladder is currently very seriously broke even for untangled 
array's - but hopefully we can repair it.


> |Coming back to my original question would it be okay then too
> |introduce a general method like #tmp_freeze (or Freeze objects)
> |into the core for this - this seems much cleaner to me? 
> 
> Well, it makes me feel like implementation issue leaking outside.

The point is that recursion creeps beyond class boundaries and 
if we wanted to be really carefully some of our destructive methods
would require that put the whole data-structure into a tmp_look(freeze) 
(we have not decided on a finial strategy about this) - but I can
understand that you want to shield the user from the complexity of 
having two different freeze methods our the even more complex notion
of Freeze Objects around -  i.e. we can do without tmp_freeze.

Christoph