From: Trans Date: 2005-01-25T02:00:51+09:00 Subject: Re: Complex Library Object/Class and its Interface Thanks Ilmari Heikkinen, A fair suggestion. The problem though is I'd have to make an instance of the class just to read the exclusive, start and stop information. I thought about doing it that way and creating dummy tokens to use, but using dummy tokens seemed rather unRubyish. It would be better if I could get that info with out instantiating the class. T.