From: Glenn Parker Date: 2005-01-22T11:35:17+09:00 Subject: Re: [OT] Open Source Licenses against Software Patents Bill Kelly wrote: > From: "Thursday" > >>Bad patents, ones that should not have been issued, have virtually no >>chance of winning in court. Their only worth is to anti-patent >>activists to showcase as examples but in court, they'd become >>invalidated if challenged. > > Really? Ever tried it? Indeed, the cost of defending oneself in a patent lawsuit is, on average, $2-4mm. In addition, companies that challenge software patents in the U.S. face a very difficult choice. They can hire lawyers and go to court, but the price of losing a challenge is dire because they have proven themselves to be an infringing party, leaving them at a distinct legal disadvantage. Some organizations are stepping in to persue independent challenges of some well-known patents, avoiding the legal jeopardy that potential infringers face, but their efforts are limited to attacking only the most outrageous claims. Regarding the challenge of naming something good resulting from software patent law, I can only state my understanding of the *intended* goals of the U.S. patent office. Those were to encourage investment in research and to facilitate the broad sharing of the results for the benefit of industry. In the case of software, this has not been the result. Software companies have needed no government incentive to explore advances in software. And software patents have most frequently been used to restrict the use of knowledge and to suppress competition and innovation. Whether U.S. patent law could be modified to achieve the desired results is an interesting, but purely hypothetical question. The "facts on the ground" are too serious to ignore. If anybody is not familiar with the ten most egregious U.S. software patents, here is a list: * One-click online shopping (U.S. Patent No. 5,960,411.) * Online shopping carts (U.S. Patent No. 5,715,314.) * The hyperlink (U.S. Patent No. 4,873,662.) * Video streaming (U.S. Patent No. 5,132,992.) * Internationalizing domain names (U.S. Patent No. 6,182,148.) * Pop-up windows (U.S. Patent No. 6,389,458.) * Targeted banner ads (U.S. Patent No. 6,026,368.) * Paying with a credit card online (U.S. Patent No. 6,289,319.) * Framed browsing; (U.S. Patent Nos. 5,933,841 & 6,442,574.) and * Affiliate linking (U.S. Patent No. 6,029,141.) Sources: http://www.eff.org/patent/ and http://www/pubpat.org/ Everybody reading this list (in the U.S.) has likely infringed on one or more of these patents. When the patent lawyers come knocking at your door, they won't be interested in philosophical arguments about how patents should be used for the good of mankind. -- Glenn Parker | glenn.parker-AT-comcast.net |