From: Nicholas Van Weerdenburg Date: 2005-01-19T06:33:13+09:00 Subject: Re: Goodle Groups and My New Address I've done the same. Not sure what I'm going to do about other mail lists- maybe another gmail account. Since 80% of my email time is spent on ruby mailing lists, it makes sense to keep my current gmail account dedicated. I quite like having my inbox for reading, and my labels for archiving. If I got immediately to a folder/label, then I don't have a simple step to make things disappear. I suppose I could label "ruby-talk" and "ruby-talk-inbox" and remove the "ruby-talk-inbox" label when done reading a mesage. Hmm. Yeah, that would do it, I think. And a single-click, similar to "archive". The downside of such good management is that I try to catch up after being away for a few days or weeks, as opposed to giving up more easily with a less effective interface. I actually prefer gmail over any email interface, period. I'd recommend to anyone reading ruby-talk through it, at least for a week, to learn the interface and appreciate the art and design in the interface. Even if you go back to mutt or Thunderbird, it would be a worthwhile experience. Nick On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 04:54:26 +0900, Craig Moran wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 04:00:48 +0900, Gavri Fernandez > wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 03:48:31 +0900, Craig Moran > > wrote: > > > > > It is possible that you misunderstood me. After I Label something, I > > > Archive it so that it no longer exists in my Inbox. If it is a > > > message I haven't read, it sits in my Inbox. This can be considerable > > > > The filter I've set labels and archives automatically. So at no point > > of time are there any ruby-talk mails in my Inbox. > > I'm sure that I'm being misunderstood now. From my first message on > this topic, I quote: > > "I am using this Google email addy specifically for the Ruby ML and > nothing else." > > You are advising me from the perspective of a GMail user that uses > their account for several different situations, this ML being only one > of them. Others take note, because this advice is sound for anyone > using GMail for things in addition to this ML. > > > > after a few days of not checking the mail. Since I enjoy much of the > > > traffic on this ML, I let the messages stay in my Inbox to be read > > > instead of Auto-archiving them. Maybe "downside" was the improper > > > > It really doesn't make a difference if you auto-archive them. Try it > > and see. You can always click on the label links to get to see the > > labelled mails although they have been archived. And the interface > > provides visualisation of which conversations have been read and which > > haven't among these archived mails. > > See my message quoted above. You provide sound advice for others in > your situation. > > Advice for anyone using GMail purely for this ML like myself (not > directed at Gavri ;^) ): auto-archiving will add one more step in > that you will have to click on the archived folder to get to your > messages as opposed to them just being there in your Inbox when you > login. > > > > word for me to use because I never intended it to mean that it was a > > > "problem" at all. If anything, it just shows that I need to be more > > > diligent in keeping up with the ML. Because of the very natural > > > taxonomy feature of GMail, I still maintain that GMail is much better > > > than any newsreader. > > > > I guess you have not set the ruby-talk filter to autoarchive. Try it. > > You lose nothing but the clutter in your Inbox. > > To those using their GMail for more than this ML, this is once again > sound advice. > > > Regards, > > Gavri > > Another upside to using GMail as I am is the fact that I am not > intermixing any of my other interests. My GMail account is purely for > Ruby and nothing else. If I happen to have several other interests > involving MLs (which I don't), I have made the choice to keep them > separate. By keeping them separate, I also decrease the risk to > ruby-talk's ML that my email will be harvested from one of my other > interests. Thus, I avoid compromising the integrity of the ruby-talk > ML. > > At the risk of repeating myself, my favorite benefit is having one > central, personally moderated repository of everything I think is > great about Ruby. > > Peace- > C > > -- Nicholas Van Weerdenburg