From: Brian McCallister Date: 2004-09-29T21:58:20+09:00 Subject: Re: NYC Ruby job listing The adoption rate for most languages is about ten years (without huge marketing campaigns and millions of dollars backing them up (Java, C#)). You will notice it is starting to get a lot of prominent notice in last year or two, for instance. The current adoption rate is not atypical, and it is already the scripting language of the discriminating hacker ;-) Back door tech as Tim Bray says. -Brian On Sep 29, 2004, at 8:53 AM, STEPHEN BECKER I V wrote: > At college (East Stroudsburg University) I am taking a programming > lang course. For the course we have to present and teach the class a > lang of our choice. My teacher had all the basics ( php, Java, > FORTRAN,snowbal,cobalt....) and ask if anyone had a different lang. I > found ruby because i had to install it to run some widgets. I knew > nothing of ruby, but now i am going to teach it to my class. Another > 30 some people exposed to ruby. I have heard some where before that > Ruby is becoming mainstream in Japan, i was wondering if this is true? > And does anyone have a clue why after 10 years, it has not become very > popular? > Stephen Becker > > > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:39:20 +0900, Phil Tomson > wrote: >> In article <4159F5BE.9010700@infofiend.com>, >> >> >> Ben Giddings wrote: >>> Francis Hwang wrote: >>>> Another interesting thing is that this is for a financial firm, not >>>> a >>>> web consulting firm. Finance companies aren't known for being >>>> risk-takers when it comes to technology: They tend to like >>>> technologies backed by big companies, and vendors with deep pockets. >>>> >>>> Just last week, at the monthly Ruby-NYC meeting, I was pointing out >>>> that in NYC we're a year or two behind the curve when it comes to >>>> tech >>>> and Ruby adoption, but hey, at least somebody's getting there. >>> >>> Interesting, but you'd think that if someone is serious enough to >>> have a >>> job opening with Ruby as part of the title, someone on this list >>> would >>> know them, especially considering they're asking for a "Senior" Ruby >>> developer. >>> >>> Anybody know who this is? >>> >>> I'd be interested to know if they have other Rubyists working there >>> -- >>> I'd expect they would, wouldn't they? >>> >> >> I've run into rubyists out there who never posted to comp.lang.ruby or >> ruby-talk (in fact in one case, I don't think they had ever >> subscribed or >> read the list, so you couldn't even call them lurkers). There are a >> lot more >> lurkers than posters in general and there are a lot of folks who are >> not >> 'joiners' by nature. And there are people who have apparently just >> begun using Ruby in a business setting due to applications like Rails. >> >> Just as a 'sociological' case study consider The Robot Co-op in >> Seattle: >> ( http://robotcoop.com/ ) Ruby seems to be playing a large >> part in this start-up, but none of the names listed look familiar >> from ruby-talk or >> comp.lang.ruby. From the posts on their site it would seem that they >> first >> decided to use Rails which of course means they would be using Ruby. >> They >> mention that they're learning Ruby. Apparently they were unaware of >> the >> Seattle Ruby group. >> >> This raises two possibilities: >> 1) There are people out there using (or planning to use Ruby) who are >> unaware >> of the various Ruby resources (ruby-talk, local Ruby User's Groups) >> 2) Maybe Ruby is easy enough to learn that they have not had to check >> in to >> ruby-talk or a local Ruby User's Group and/or they prefer to remain >> 'under the >> radar'. >> >> >> Phil >> >> > >