From: STEPHEN BECKER I V Date: 2004-09-29T21:53:44+09:00 Subject: Re: NYC Ruby job listing At college (East Stroudsburg University) I am taking a programming lang course. For the course we have to present and teach the class a lang of our choice. My teacher had all the basics ( php, Java, FORTRAN,snowbal,cobalt....) and ask if anyone had a different lang. I found ruby because i had to install it to run some widgets. I knew nothing of ruby, but now i am going to teach it to my class. Another 30 some people exposed to ruby. I have heard some where before that Ruby is becoming mainstream in Japan, i was wondering if this is true? And does anyone have a clue why after 10 years, it has not become very popular? Stephen Becker On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:39:20 +0900, Phil Tomson wrote: > In article <4159F5BE.9010700@infofiend.com>, > > > Ben Giddings wrote: > >Francis Hwang wrote: > >> Another interesting thing is that this is for a financial firm, not a > >> web consulting firm. Finance companies aren't known for being > >> risk-takers when it comes to technology: They tend to like > >> technologies backed by big companies, and vendors with deep pockets. > >> > >> Just last week, at the monthly Ruby-NYC meeting, I was pointing out > >> that in NYC we're a year or two behind the curve when it comes to tech > >> and Ruby adoption, but hey, at least somebody's getting there. > > > >Interesting, but you'd think that if someone is serious enough to have a > >job opening with Ruby as part of the title, someone on this list would > >know them, especially considering they're asking for a "Senior" Ruby > >developer. > > > >Anybody know who this is? > > > >I'd be interested to know if they have other Rubyists working there -- > >I'd expect they would, wouldn't they? > > > > I've run into rubyists out there who never posted to comp.lang.ruby or > ruby-talk (in fact in one case, I don't think they had ever subscribed or > read the list, so you couldn't even call them lurkers). There are a lot more > lurkers than posters in general and there are a lot of folks who are not > 'joiners' by nature. And there are people who have apparently just > begun using Ruby in a business setting due to applications like Rails. > > Just as a 'sociological' case study consider The Robot Co-op in Seattle: > ( http://robotcoop.com/ ) Ruby seems to be playing a large > part in this start-up, but none of the names listed look familiar from ruby-talk or > comp.lang.ruby. From the posts on their site it would seem that they first > decided to use Rails which of course means they would be using Ruby. They > mention that they're learning Ruby. Apparently they were unaware of the > Seattle Ruby group. > > This raises two possibilities: > 1) There are people out there using (or planning to use Ruby) who are unaware > of the various Ruby resources (ruby-talk, local Ruby User's Groups) > 2) Maybe Ruby is easy enough to learn that they have not had to check in to > ruby-talk or a local Ruby User's Group and/or they prefer to remain 'under the > radar'. > > > Phil > >