From: Brian Wisti <brianwisti@...>
Date: 2004-09-16T02:12:19+09:00
Subject: Re: Ruby equiv of Perl's HTML::Template module?


--- Chris <ceo@nospan.on.net> wrote:

> Gavin Sinclair wrote:
> >>Hopefully someone here fairly familiar with Perl can point me to a
> Ruby
> >>HTML templating system that works like Perl's HTML::Template.  The
> next
> >>closest perferred equivalent would be Perl Template Toolkit.  But I
> >>really like HTML::Template a lot.
> >>
> >>I'm relatively new to Ruby (very slight dabbling since v1.6 circa
> 2001),
> >> so my opinions may not hold water, but I don't really consider
> eRuby a
> >>templating system.  Maybe someone can help me see how it's not
> anything
> >>more than PHP or ASP except Ruby is used instead of PHP or
> VBScript...?
> >>
> >>Anyway, my main interest is in finding something like Perl's
> >>HTML::Template.  Hopefully it exists somewhere in the Ruby world.
> > 
> > 
> > I don't think there's a direct port, but there are some Ruby HTML
> > templating libraries around (RDoc, cs/template, Amrita, ...).  Can
> you
> > describe the benefits of the Perl solution?
> 
> I'm not sure I am able to accurately articulate what I perceive the 
> benefits to be.  The main "advantage" that I feel -- it's kind of a 
> "gut" thing -- is that the templates are, in a logical way, truly
> only 
> markup.  There is no "code" per se, loosely speaking.  Strictly 
> speaking, I realize there are the loop and conditional tags, but
> still 
> it "feels" like only HTML markup.  I really like that because the 
> separation between logic and presentation is about as good as it
> gets.
> 
> All my opinion of course but those that use HTML::Template in the
> Perl 
> world, I think would agree.  I'm definitely going to check out some
> of 
> the suggestions.  I've held this infatuation with Ruby for a long
> time, 
> and even adopted some "Ruby ways" in my Perl coding for a few years
> now. 
>   I've decided the only real way to bridge the gap is to force myself
> to 
> stop using Perl (which I still really like) and just use Ruby full
> out. 
>   So I'm trying to find things that ease the transition, like 
> HTML::Template.  I can't afford a lot of downtime, which has been the
> 
> biggest strike against using Ruby -- I'm pretty fast, tight and
> accurate 
> in hitting targets using Perl (if I may be so bold).  But there are 
> several "Wow!" factors in Ruby that keep me hanging around...
> wishing... :-)
> 
> -ceo

You can always take a poke at my own PageTemplate library. It was a
sort of self-instructional project designed (ha! "Designed"? Right!) to
address the homesickness I felt when using Ruby kept me away from
HTML::Template.

    http://coolnamehere.com/products/pagetemplate/

You may find that it is incredibly raw and simplistic, and it might not
even be what you were thinking of, but hey - what's one more templating
library out there? Feel free to poke at it all you want :-)

Kind Regards,

Brian Wisti
http://coolnamehere.com/