From: David Ross <drossruby@...>
Date: 2004-08-31T02:43:14+09:00
Subject: Re: Ruby Web Hosts


--- Jamis Buck <jgb3@email.byu.edu> wrote:

> David Ross wrote:
> 
> > - again? well take a look how stable the BSD base
> is
> > and how long its been around. Don't think time is
> > relavent? Well then if you don't think so you are
> not
> > very intelligent.
> 
> David, you make some good points, but you also have
> a very nasty habit 
> of coming across very offensively. Please try to be
> a little less 
> aggressive in your proselyting--you win very few
> friends that way.
> 

:) Yes I know. I am not an easy person to get along
with. I am great at coding pair though.

> Also, regarding "how long its been around:" some
> quick googling shows 
> that FreeBSD "had its genesis in early 1993" 
>
(http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/history.html).
> 

No no, that is only FreeBSD. Look at the orginal BSD
code. FreeBSD is based off the BSD4.4 Lite. the code
has been around longer. I believe it was in 1975~ Most
of the original code is still in tact, and very few
base exploits in the past years  from the original
BSD4.4 Lite code

> Compare that to MS Windows, of which version 1.0 was
> released in 
> November 1985
>
(http://members.fortunecity.com/pcmuseum/windows.htm).
> Yet 
> no one would even DARE to say that Windows was more
> secure than FreeBSD, 
> even though it is some 8 years older. Age of the
> operating system is not 
> necessarily a good indication of stability and
> security.

FreeBSD was based off the BSD project that were in the
70s. 

> 
> > Want to be a little bitch about it? okay fine to
> the
> > smart asses who keep saying "BSD is dying".
> > http://www.linuxisforbitches.com
> 
> I can tell this is a sensitive issue for you. That's
> fine--we've all got 
> our hot buttons. But that's no reason to be
> offensive.

I admit, I am an asshole. I am like a business person
when I speak. It gets me my way, so I adapted it :) I
won't screw with linux-based trolls anymore. I just
tell them off and ignore them. Usually my first
response scares them off. I beat them with experience.
I know exactly what makes them shut up.

> 
> > Wow, lets just be idiotic and install everything
> in
> > /usr wow! now its difficult to tell the system and
> > third party packages apart! wee linux is fun!
> 
> See above. Someday I may try FreeBSD, but if your
> attitude is at all 
> indicative of the *BSD community in general, I'm a
> little frightened to 
> start asking questions...
> 


I am helpful and polite in bsd channels, however, I
will not deal with linux trolls that come into the
channel. (*IRC channels)

I am even polite to the *shrug* *seizure* iptables
questions that find thier way into the channel.
*laughs*

You want scary? Try Damm on Efnet, ultimate asshole
who scared many people off in #freeBSD on Freenode. He
was stripped of op privs and sent on his merry way
last year. 

> -Jamis


	
		
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