From: David Ross <drossruby@...>
Date: 2004-08-30T00:02:49+09:00
Subject: Re: Typos (Was: performance comparison)

well. I didn't include a bit of information of the
people I was targetting. I am not talking about the
half-job programs which are insecure or imcomplete. I
am talking about professional programmers who have had
years of experience. Most programs that are insecure
are most likely maintained by someone still in
college, or is a programmer with only a few years of
experience.

I assume nothing. I keep forgetting to include the
information I think about and only seem to include the
end conclusion. Professionalists design machine code.
I do not count the everyday application programmer as
a safe programmer.

I will introduce a quote to the public which was
brought to me that will basically shatter people if
all they do is want to write applicatoins as well that
don't have any contribution to the programming or
scientific community as well.

"The world can be a place for achievements where you
can expand, but why would you want to write throw away
code"

What does this mean? I have thought months on this
one. Why is this in the topic? Everytime I think about
programming this goes through my head. I refuse to
become a drone.

I can't exactly share on what this means for personal
reasons. You think for yourself. Though, I will have
to say this about other programmers. If you make a lot
of money programming, or even write code for a big
product , this does not make you a good programmer.

"Well, you can be a professional programmer, or you
can be a rich programmer"

This was another from a different friend. I get the
point, but I think even a good programmer can make
money. :) Hopefully.


Why am I even going over this?!
These are a couple quotes that I think about once and
a while, and that first one comes to my mind each time
I program. I am sharing. Okeday? Questions or comments
are wanted.



--- Mikael Brockman <mikael@phubuh.org> wrote:

> David Ross <drossruby@yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> > --- Kristof Bastiaensen <kristof@vleeuwen.org>
> wrote:
> > 
> > > > But to be honest i think the most people using
> > > > script languages are not
> > > > very good programmers. This has to do that
> they
> > > > are very good beginner
> > > > languages for non technical persons who wants
> to
> > > > see results instead of
> > > > learning a theory first.
> > >
> > > So you know most programmers using script
> languages,
> > > AND their skills as a
> > > programmer?  Wow, you have amazing insights!
> > > 
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > C programmers have to think more about design and
> > safety.
> 
> You assume that most C software is well-designed and
> secure.  The
> opposite is true.
> 
> > With Most scripting languages which have safety
> protection force the
> > programmer not to even think about the underlying
> code. With this,
> > this is the proof of why scripting language
> programmers are not as
> > good as per sey.. C programmers.
> 
> You assume that good programmers design with
> machine-code in mind;
> again, the opposite is true.
> 
> > I am sure this is what lothar was meaning by "But
> to be honest i think
> > the most people using script languages are not
> very good programmers"
> 
> And I agree.  Additionally, most people using
> non-script languages are
> shoddy programmers, too.
> 
> 
> 

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