From: ts Date: 2004-07-21T00:42:21+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby/Tk article on macdevcenter >>>>> "g" == gabriele renzi writes: g> "you can't call methods in included modules with self.method" ? yes and no a module function is a private method and a public class method. When you include a module, you have access only to the methods (not the class methods). If an object, except Kernel, try to access puts it will have the private method Guy Decoux