From: Sean O'Dell <sean@...>
Date: 2004-06-09T00:40:55+09:00
Subject: Re: Unit tests ... not just for the young

On Tuesday 08 June 2004 07:55, Michael Campbell wrote:
> >  I've worked with some fresh guys right
> > out of college that had what I would a disastrous defect rate.
>
> How many have you worked with that had no college degree, but the same
> amount of (in)experience as your grads?
>
> Don't paint college education as the source of those problems.

Experience in what though?  I've seen lots of college grads that couldn't even 
perform the simplest of programming tasks very well, but NEVER a non-college 
grad.  The worse I've seen with the work-experienced hires are their skills 
are sharp in something we didn't need, so they were let go.  I've seen some 
good college grad programmers, though.  The worst coders I've seen, though, 
the rock-bottom worst, were college grads.  But that's usually because they 
got the job when they were highly inexperienced, and placed into positions 
where we expected a little something of them.  They really should have gotten 
a QA job or something somewhere and coded in their spare time to ramp up.  
Non-college grads, though, never got hired unless they could prove their 
experience.

	Sean O'Dell