From: samuel@... Date: 2020-04-24T10:23:00+00:00 Subject: [ruby-core:98055] [Ruby master Feature#8215] Support accessing Fiber-locals and backtraces for a Fiber Issue #8215 has been updated by ioquatix (Samuel Williams). > It's of course unacceptable if a Ruby implementation behaves unsafely (e.g., crashes or loses fiber local variable) for this, so it is a relevant concern for this issue. We already have situations in JRuby and TruffleRuby where unsynchronized access to shared mutable state can cause a crash or data corruption. So why is this different? If you believe it's important, then I defer to your judgement. However, from my point of view: - This method should not be invoked across threads. - This method should not need to be thread safe. - The GVL might make it safe but it shouldn't be guaranteed. - Maybe we need annotations or other documentation to explain this. > If you think we need the ability to access another Fiber's locals, could you show some examples? The reason to access other fiber locals is mostly for debugging purposes. In Async, we make a list of tasks: ``` 4874m43s info: Falcon::Controller::Proxy [oid=0x2b28b0f0d558] [pid=324886] [2020-04-24 09:55:55 +0000] | # | # | # | # (running)> | # [fd=17] (complete)> | # | # | # [fd=16] (complete)> | # | # | # ``` When something is going wrong, the ability to dig into the fiber state is very useful. My plan is to make debugging tools to expose this more easily but I can't do it if there are no methods to access the state. ---------------------------------------- Feature #8215: Support accessing Fiber-locals and backtraces for a Fiber https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/8215#change-85283 * Author: halorgium (Tim Carey-Smith) * Status: Assigned * Priority: Normal * Assignee: ioquatix (Samuel Williams) ---------------------------------------- =begin As part of debugging celluloid, I have been wanting to diagnose where the Fibers are running and their various locals. I would expect the following to work. Thread.current[:key] = "outside" fiber = Fiber.new do Thread.current[:key] = "inside" Fiber.yield end fiber.resume fiber[:key] == "inside" # true fiber.backtrace # ... I also wonder whether (({Fiber#[]})) should be implemented, so (({Fiber.current[:key]})) is possible. For reference, here is the issue on the rubinius issue tracker: ((<"github/rubinius/rubinius/2200"|URL:https://github.com/rubinius/rubinius/issues/2200>)) =end ---Files-------------------------------- 0001-cont.c-fiber-local-accessors.patch (2.94 KB) -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/ Unsubscribe: