From: mame@... Date: 2019-04-12T13:52:07+00:00 Subject: [ruby-core:92257] [Ruby trunk Feature#14183] "Real" keyword argument Issue #14183 has been updated by mame (Yusuke Endoh). @jeremyevans0, You registered this ticket for pre-RubyKaigi [Misc#15459]. Do you have an idea how to discuss the issue? @ko1 is now creating an agenda, and maybe 30 minutes will be allotted to this issue. The agenda is not decided yet, though. To make it easy to discuss the issue, I'm creating a slide deck. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/16rReiCVzUog3s5vV702LzcIFM2LNcX53AX8m5K8uCZw I hope that this would be helpful and fair, but could you check the content? If you want to edit it yourself, emaiil me (mame@ruby-lang.org) your google acount. If you have already prepared something, you can ignore my slide. Anyway, I'm happy if you let me know. Thanks. ---------------------------------------- Feature #14183: "Real" keyword argument https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/14183#change-77590 * Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh) * Status: Open * Priority: Normal * Assignee: * Target version: Next Major ---------------------------------------- In RubyWorld Conference 2017 and RubyConf 2017, Matz officially said that Ruby 3.0 will have "real" keyword arguments. AFAIK there is no ticket about it, so I'm creating this (based on my understanding). In Ruby 2, the keyword argument is a normal argument that is a Hash object (whose keys are all symbols) and is passed as the last argument. This design is chosen because of compatibility, but it is fairly complex, and has been a source of many corner cases where the behavior is not intuitive. (Some related tickets: #8040, #8316, #9898, #10856, #11236, #11967, #12104, #12717, #12821, #13336, #13647, #14130) In Ruby 3, a keyword argument will be completely separated from normal arguments. (Like a block parameter that is also completely separated from normal arguments.) This change will break compatibility; if you want to pass or accept keyword argument, you always need to use bare `sym: val` or double-splat `**` syntax: ``` # The following calls pass keyword arguments foo(..., key: val) foo(..., **hsh) foo(..., key: val, **hsh) # The following calls pass **normal** arguments foo(..., {key: val}) foo(..., hsh) foo(..., {key: val, **hsh}) # The following method definitions accept keyword argument def foo(..., key: val) end def foo(..., **hsh) end # The following method definitions accept **normal** argument def foo(..., hsh) end ``` In other words, the following programs WILL NOT work: ``` # This will cause an ArgumentError because the method foo does not accept keyword argument def foo(a, b, c, hsh) p hsh[:key] end foo(1, 2, 3, key: 42) # The following will work; you need to use keyword rest operator explicitly def foo(a, b, c, **hsh) p hsh[:key] end foo(1, 2, 3, key: 42) # This will cause an ArgumentError because the method call does not pass keyword argument def foo(a, b, c, key: 1) end h = {key: 42} foo(1, 2, 3, h) # The following will work; you need to use keyword rest operator explicitly def foo(a, b, c, key: 1) end h = {key: 42} foo(1, 2, 3, **h) ``` I think here is a transition path: * Ruby 2.6 (or 2.7?) will output a warning when a normal argument is interpreted as keyword argument, or vice versa. * Ruby 3.0 will use the new semantics. ---Files-------------------------------- vm_args.diff (4.19 KB) vm_args_v2.diff (4.18 KB) -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/ Unsubscribe: