From: normalperson@... Date: 2014-05-14T06:59:05+00:00 Subject: [ruby-core:62578] [ruby-trunk - Feature #9614] ordering of non-Hash items which use st_ internally Issue #9614 has been updated by Eric Wong. Hi, thank you for the comments! ko1: adding flag for ordering might complicate the st code even more. I think st should only be for implementing Hash. My primary goals for ihash are to reduce pointer chasing and malloc use. ihash uses container_of, like ccan/list: st (unpacked entries): st_table -> st_table->bins -> st_table_entry -> data structure st (packed entries): st_table -> st_table->packed.entries -> data structure ihash: rb_ihash_table -> data structure (via container_of) Removing ordering requirment allows us to avoid writing/maintaining more (new) code and also save two pointers (fore/prev). nobu: reduction depends on what is stored Best case so far are method table and symbol table: For each method entry, we save: sizeof(st_table_entry) - sizeof(rb_ihash_node) + malloc_overhead On 64-bit with glibc malloc: 48 - 8 + 16 = 56 bytes saved. AFAIK, jemalloc has less overhead for small allocations, but even without malloc overhead, saving 40 bytes per method entry is great. Symbol table is a big win, too, one single struct has membership in both sym_id and id_str tables: struct rb_idsym { struct rb_ihash_node id_str_node; /* sizeof(void *) */ ID id; struct rb_ihash_node sym_id_node; VALUE symstr; st_index_t hashval; }; On 64-bit: Before: 48 + 48 = 96 (+ 32 bytes on glibc malloc) After: 40 (+ 16 bytes on glibc malloc) If we add ordering to Symbol.all_symbols, we only need one pair of list pointers and not two. But I prefer to not need any :) Worst case is only saving two pointers (ivar table); but I may look at funny-falcon's sparse array for the ivar table. I have not looked at the local variable table, but it may be in the same class as ivar tables and be better with a sparse array. P.S.: I am also considering truncating rb_idsym.hashval to use as ID. This will: a) reduce per-symbol overhead by sizeof(st_index_t) b) (hopefully) improve distribution for global method cach Measuring the effect of b) may be hard, though. ---------------------------------------- Feature #9614: ordering of non-Hash items which use st_ internally https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/9614#change-46721 * Author: Eric Wong * Status: Open * Priority: Normal * Assignee: Yukihiro Matsumoto * Category: core * Target version: current: 2.2.0 ---------------------------------------- Hi matz, I would like your permission to remove the order preservation from any or all of the following currently implemented using `st_table`: * method tables * global symbols (`Symbol.all_symbols`) * constant tables * instance variable tables * `global_variables` method * `Thread#keys` * anything besides the `Hash` class I am currently working on a patch series to reduce internal memory usage, so far I have only converted three pieces: 1. method tables (~200K reduction) 2. symbol table (`global_symbols.`{`id_str`,`sym_id`}) (~200K) 3. `frozen_strings` (~100K) n.b. `frozen_strings` ordering is never exposed to users, so I expect it to be OK. Memory reduction is just based on "`ruby -e exit`" (which loads RubyGems); bigger programs with more methods/symbols will save more memory. Work-in-progress patches attached (0002 describes implementation details) ---Files-------------------------------- 0001-adjust-tests-to-account-for-unsorted-methods.patch (1.87 KB) 0002-ihash-initial-implementation-method-table-conversion.patch (32.8 KB) 0004-ihash-implement-rb_ihash_update-to-support-rb_fstrin.patch (7.84 KB) 0003-parse.y-switch-to-ihash-saves-200K-out-of-the-box.patch (9.51 KB) -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/