[#6143] — Christophe Poucet <christophe.poucet@...>

Hello,

17 messages 2005/10/04
[#6147] Re: patch.tgz — nobu.nokada@... 2005/10/04

Hi,

[#6199] Kernel rdoc HTML file not being created when rdoc is run on 1.8.3 — James Britt <ruby@...>

When 1.8.3 came out, I grabbed the source and ran rdoc on it. After

9 messages 2005/10/08

[#6251] RubyGems, upstream releases and idempotence of packaging — Mauricio Fern疣dez <mfp@...>

[sorry for the very late reply; I left this message in +postponed and forgot

14 messages 2005/10/12

[#6282] Wilderness: Need Code to invoke ELTS_SHARED response — "Charles E. Thornton" <ruby-core@...>

Testing the My Object Dump and I am trying to cause creation

13 messages 2005/10/14
[#6283] Re: Wilderness: Need Code to invoke ELTS_SHARED response — Mauricio Fern疣dez <mfp@...> 2005/10/14

On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 05:04:59PM +0900, Charles E. Thornton wrote:

[#6288] Re: Wilderness: Need Code to invoke ELTS_SHARED response — "Charles E. Thornton" <ruby-core@...> 2005/10/14

Mauricio Fern疣dez wrote:

[#6365] Time for built-in Rational and Complex classes? — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>

There has been some support for, but no comment on, RCR #260 ("Make

12 messages 2005/10/24
[#6366] Re: Time for built-in Rational and Complex classes? — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/10/24

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Gavin Sinclair wrote:

[#6405] Re: [PATCH] Pathname.exists?() — "Berger, Daniel" <Daniel.Berger@...>

12 messages 2005/10/25
[#6406] Re: [PATCH] Pathname.exists?() — TRANS <transfire@...> 2005/10/25

On 10/25/05, Berger, Daniel <Daniel.Berger@qwest.com> wrote:

[#6408] Re: [PATCH] Pathname.exists?() — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2005/10/25

On 10/26/05, TRANS <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

[#6442] Wilderness: I Have formatted README.EXT into an HTML Document — "Charles E. Thornton" <ruby-core@...>

I have taken README.EXT (English Version Only) and have reformatted

14 messages 2005/10/27

[#6469] csv.rb a start on refactoring. — Hugh Sasse <hgs@...>

For a database application I found using CSV to be rather slow.

50 messages 2005/10/28
[#6470] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/10/28

[#6471] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/10/28

On Oct 28, 2005, at 8:53 AM, Ara.T.Howard wrote:

[#6474] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/10/28

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#6484] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/10/29

On Oct 28, 2005, at 9:58 AM, Ara.T.Howard wrote:

[#6485] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/10/29

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005, James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#6486] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/10/29

On Oct 28, 2005, at 8:25 PM, Ara.T.Howard wrote:

[#6487] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/10/29

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005, James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#6491] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/10/29

On Oct 28, 2005, at 8:43 PM, Ara.T.Howard wrote:

[#6493] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/10/29

On Oct 28, 2005, at 10:06 PM, James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#6496] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/10/29

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005, James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#6502] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/10/30

On Oct 29, 2005, at 12:11 PM, Ara.T.Howard wrote:

[#6505] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/10/30

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#6511] Planning FasterCSV (was Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring.) — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/10/30

I've decided to create a FasterCSV library, based on the code we

[#6516] Re: Planning FasterCSV (was Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring.) — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/10/31

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#6518] Re: Planning FasterCSV (was Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring.) — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2005/10/31

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Re: gems is a language change, not a pkging system

From: Chad Fowler <chad@...>
Date: 2005-10-10 21:45:04 UTC
List: ruby-core #6216
On 10-Oct-05, at 8:41 AM, Sean E. Russell wrote:

> On Wednesday 28 September 2005 08:54, Hugh Sasse wrote:
>
>> I beg to differ: gems do make installation easy, and provide useful
>> supporting infrastructure for testing and documentation, which means
>> not only do you get a simple install, but good practices are
>> encouraged.  This cultural stuff is useful.  And I think the
>> simplicity of installing Rails has contributed to its success, for
>> one thing.
>>
>
> That's the funniest thing, because my current objections to Gems  
> are based
> largely on multiple bad experiences trying to install Rails through  
> RubyGems.
>
>
>> But RubGems doesn't prevent this.  If you get a gem and can unpack
>> it, and then you can repackage it using whichever packaging system
>> fits your setup, then what is the problem?  Specifically: what can
>> gems do to make [re]packaging easier?
>>
>
> Mauricio Fern疣dez and Eivind Eklund have covered this quite well,  
> I think.  I
> don't do a lot of repackaging, so I can't contribute anything  
> beyond what
> they've already said.
>
> A long time ago, before REXML was added to Ruby's CVS, I tried  
> building a Gem
> for REXML, and the experience was an utter failure.  I admit that this
> colored my perception of RubyGems, because even back then people  
> were pushing
> me to distribute REXML as a Gem.  I echoed Austin's attitude toward  
> Debian
> packagers.

Sean, what were you using before REXML was added to Ruby's CVS?  We  
wrote RubyGems after that.  Were you
using Ryan Leavengood's old prototype?  If so, that's only related in  
name and purpose.

Chad

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