From: sowieso@... Date: 2014-03-02T22:37:32+00:00 Subject: [ruby-core:61235] [ruby-trunk - Feature #9076] New one-argument block syntax: &. Issue #9076 has been updated by So Wieso. Matthew Kerwin wrote: > I share concerns that have been voiced earlier in the thread. > > This code snippet: `foo &.bar` *looks* like you're either passing `&.bar` as the first positional parameter to foo, or casting `.bar` to a Proc and passing it as the block parameter. You might argue that that *is* what you're doing, but it's not; `.bar` isn't a thing that can be #to_proc'd, and `&` isn't an object you can send method calls. What we end up doing is confusing the syntax, adding a third option which looks like a hybrid of the others, but is something else again. You are totally right, this is yet another use for &. But if you take the new rule, it is not really confusing, just parse it like explained when you see & followed by a dot. And you still have the & warning you: here is something blockish going on. > I think the ampex gem better captures the intent here by both using the `&` sigil/operator to clearly indicate that Proc->block magic is happening, and by providing an explicit object to receive the method calls. Of course it could never be promoted to core, because the name 'X' is far too valuable and I doubt anyone could come up with a better one, but personally I'm happy enough that the gem exists and can be used by those to whom it would be of benefit. I agree, X is a no-go. Wouldn't any symbol (in ascii) be possible? (`map &@.to_s`, or even `map @.to_s`) > And if it's too slow for you, write out the full code, even if that means creating a throw-away variable in your block. We like variables, they show us what our code is doing. I doubt it's a goal of the language to remove them. I disagree here. The usual one-letter-variables in real code do not show anything. This implementation would still force us to give them a name if we want to use them more than once, which is a compromise on a good level. What if we do it like this? `[1,2,3,4].map{.to_s(2)}.reverse => ["100", "11", "10", "1"]` When there is no receiver for a method-call (can only be the first method-call in a block), send the message to yielded argument. ---------------------------------------- Feature #9076: New one-argument block syntax: &. https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/9076#change-45581 * Author: Ary Borenszweig * Status: Feedback * Priority: Low * Assignee: * Category: core * Target version: Next Major ---------------------------------------- Hello, I'd like to introduce a new syntax for blocks that have one argument. Currently you can do this: [1, 2, 3].map &:to_s With the proposed syntax this will be written as: [1, 2, 3].map &.to_s Instead of ":" we use a ".". The idea is that this new syntax is just syntax sugar that is expanded by the parser to this: [1, 2, 3].map { |arg| arg.to_s } This new syntax allows passing arguments: [1, 2, 3, 4].map &.to_s(2) #=> ["1", "10", "11", "100"] It also allows chaining calls: [1, 10, 100].map &.to_s.length #=> [1, 2, 3] You can also use another block: [[1, -2], [-3, -4]].map &.map &.abs #=> [[1, 2], [3, 4]] Pros: - Doesn't conflict with any existing syntax, because that now gives a syntax error, so it is available. - Allows passing arguments and chaining calls - It's *fast*: it's just syntax sugar. The "&:to_s" is slower because the to_proc method is invoked, you have a cache of procs, etc. - It looks ok (in my opinion) and allows very nice functional code (like the last example). Cons: - Only supports one (implicit) argument. But this is the same limitation of "&:to_s". If you want more than one argument, use the traditional block syntax. - It's a new syntax, so users need to learn it. But to defend this point, users right now need to understand the &:to_s syntax, which is hard to explain (this calls the "to_proc" method of Symbol, which creates a block... vs. "it's just syntax sugar for") What do you think? We are using this syntax in a new language we are doing, Crystal, which has a syntax very similar to Ruby, and so far we think it's nice, simple and powerful. You can read more about it here: http://crystal-lang.org/2013/09/15/to-proc.html -- http://bugs.ruby-lang.org/