From: TRANS Date: 2005-09-21T22:55:10+09:00 Subject: Re: RubyGems in Ruby HEAD I'd like to add 2 cents about libraries being added to std. Ruby in general: I don't think it's good. Here are my reasons. 1) People have different use cases for Ruby and being straddled with a large set of libraries that will not be used is unnecessary bloat. 2) Some package maintainers know the above and have gone to lengths to split the distribution into it's many parts, eg. Debian. While that can be a bit annoying for Debian users, the end result is a cleaner system. 3) Having separate libs allows one to install newer versions of things before the next version of Ruby itself is even out. 3) It puts greater burden on Ruby 's main developers. Having said this, RubyGems or kin, is something that I think SHOULD be included standard. As it would facilitate an increased exclusion of other libs, which could instead be easily installed on demand via this vehicle. T.